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Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#1 - 2015-10-31 03:12:54 UTC
Hi CCP I am really like your product but may by you are start thinking , about what you have done to the game .
I am trully ok with your solutions but probobly you start thinking on you patches and involment
cause if you make d3 for command ship killer at list discribe the fit or oportunity for command ship to survive this or you just dont care and your sp trasfer is the game makeing this atm
Best Regards
GG
Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#2 - 2015-10-31 03:15:06 UTC
And i am waiting for dev post with description couse i do not undestaand how AC med guns do not hit destroer
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-10-31 03:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
Wow. This is a first...of some kind. Shocked

Wait! I have it! You hate the ISDs so you rolled this toon and spent two hours
practicing your broken English before posting!!

You're mad 'cause one of your posts with your main got roughly treated or something
and, this is vengeance posting, RIGHT???

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Tyra Falco
Glasgow Kiss Enterprises
#4 - 2015-10-31 03:39:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyra Falco
I think I've got this one...

Don't use Hail on small targets!!!!!
Use either faction EMP/Phased Plasma/Fusion or Depleted Uranium (witch has a 20% tracking bonus) and fit scram and web to your own ship.
Bringing friends to scram/web your target is also very useful.

Samoth Egnoled -'I like your Avatar alot! The facial tattoo's kinda give you that scary clown look, which suits you quite well.' Pepper Swift -'Fuckisn like not workign'
Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#5 - 2015-10-31 04:08:24 UTC
Destroyers is frigats with cuisers signatures
Command ships is cruisers whis battleship signatures
or i am too old to play this game
I am just trying to understand the point of thinking of the devs
Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#6 - 2015-10-31 04:13:27 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
Wow. This is a first...of some kind. Shocked

Wait! I have it! You hate the ISDs so you rolled this toon and spent two hours
practicing your broken English before posting!!

You're mad 'cause one of your posts with your main got roughly treated or something
and, this is vengeance posting, RIGHT???


Sorry mate but you are too young to understand something
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-10-31 04:22:33 UTC
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Destroyers is frigats with cuisers signatures
Command ships is cruisers whis battleship signatures
or i am too old to play this game
I am just trying to understand the point of thinking of the devs




Sleipnir with Dual 180mm or eother 220mm Vulcans and you could knock destroyers.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Jenshae Chiroptera
#8 - 2015-10-31 04:24:54 UTC
Maybe you ought to start thinking

Angelyna Fire wrote:
Hi CCP,

I really like your product but maybe you can start thinking about what you have done to this game .
I am truly ok with your solutions but possibly you could start thinking about your patches and involvement.
If you make (D3 ?) for command ships [something about command ships not surviving and CCP not caring] and your SP transfer is at the root of this.
Best regards,
GG

Best I can make of the original post.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#9 - 2015-10-31 04:48:18 UTC
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.

Give Battlecruisers range to fullfil their Anti-Cruiser role - OP SUCCESS

Make the Muninn great again!
Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#10 - 2015-10-31 04:53:36 UTC
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.


just interesting
How can fit web with 5 m slots and nutr with this mwg\cpu
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#11 - 2015-10-31 05:09:19 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.


just interesting
How can fit web with 5 m slots and nutr with this mwg\cpu

Be creative.
(hint: take advantage of the natural resistances of the ship)

[Sleipnir, Frigate Killer]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Warrior II x5


It may not have neuts... but it can certainly kill (or chase away, at the very least) frigates.

How did you Veterans start?
Angelyna Fire
Star Brood
#12 - 2015-10-31 05:24:06 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.


just interesting
How can fit web with 5 m slots and nutr with this mwg\cpu

Be creative.
(hint: take advantage of the natural resistances of the ship)

[Sleipnir, Frigate Killer]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Warrior II x5


It may not have neuts... but it can certainly kill (or chase away, at the very least) frigates.



Can you post some kill mails with this fits solo vs small gang or small gang on small gang

From this fit i can see the dawngrade of tank at list

and what the dps of the 2 launchers ? on my skils its like 50 dps
And I am still do not understand why cruiser size weapon do not hait cruiser size hull



Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-10-31 06:00:50 UTC
Angelyna Fire wrote:


Can you post some kill mails with this fits solo vs small gang or small gang on small gang

From this fit i can see the dawngrade of tank at list

and what the dps of the 2 launchers ? on my skils its like 50 dps
And I am still do not understand why cruiser size weapon do not hait cruiser size hull





Hmmm how about you start thinking in your turn? You want everyone else but not you to work this for you as well as continue to blame in csse you would fail again.

Or you want an immediate success right after you learn the skills for ship, bought it from market, undock and met up a gang of t3d's who had already spent sometimes on different tactics and know how to kill lone CS?

Go back to the school and learn the basics. If you want some solo Sleipnir kills here we go
https://youtu.be/DyFB03FMc7gg
https://youtu.be/_o07aQagOiQ

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Portmanteau
Iron Krosz
#14 - 2015-10-31 06:45:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Portmanteau
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.


just interesting
How can fit web with 5 m slots and nutr with this mwg\cpu


http://cdn.meme.am/instances2/500x/2688855.jpg
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-10-31 06:56:23 UTC
If this was /r/eve, you would have just made a meme.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#16 - 2015-10-31 07:15:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Angelyna Fire wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

Be creative.
(hint: take advantage of the natural resistances of the ship)

[Sleipnir, Frigate Killer]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II

Warrior II x5


It may not have neuts... but it can certainly kill (or chase away, at the very least) frigates.



Can you post some kill mails with this fits solo vs small gang or small gang on small gang

From this fit i can see the dawngrade of tank at list

and what the dps of the 2 launchers ? on my skils its like 50 dps
And I am still do not understand why cruiser size weapon do not hait cruiser size hull

*facepalm*

Go back to using frigates. Join a PvP corporation to learn.
It is clear you are not ready to fly more advanced ships.


hints:
- having a powerful tank is useless by itself... there is more to surviving a fight
- high DPS does not matter. Learn what "applied damage" is and how to achieve it
- Learn what "weapon tracking" is (extra hint: webs help track targets better)

How did you Veterans start?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#17 - 2015-10-31 07:46:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Stitch Kaneland wrote:
Lol, we actually discussed this guy's kill earlier in channel as we were baffled as to how the sleip died. Svipul had a 1mn AB and was able to sig tank you indefinitely because you didn't fit correctly.

CCP doesn't need to fix anything, you failed for 2 reasons.

No web
No neuts

If you had web and neuts, that would have slowed him down so you track better, and the neuts would have capped him out and his AB/tackle to shutoff. Fitting the biggest tank on your ship with no utility comes at the cost of you being very vulnerable to small ships.


just interesting
How can fit web with 5 m slots and nutr with this mwg\cpu

You just drag and drop it onto the empy slots. You have to compromise to be efficient.

But, there is no "one fit fix all" policy in EVE.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-10-31 08:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:
Wow. This is a first...of some kind. Shocked

Wait! I have it! You hate the ISDs so you rolled this toon and spent two hours
practicing your broken English before posting!!

You're mad 'cause one of your posts with your main got roughly treated or something
and, this is vengeance posting, RIGHT???


Sorry mate but you are too young to understand something
You're so funny. I'm sixty years old, kiddo.
Let me know when you're through your second war - IRL that is.
You know what we do when we assume.... ass-u-me.

C'mon, y'all. Amateur Troll Hour is over.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-10-31 09:12:40 UTC
Angelyna Fire wrote:
Sorry mate but you are too young to understand something


Hardly.
Your interpretation of english is hard to understand.
It is not enough to inject the skill but you need at least train to english level one.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-10-31 09:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberius Heth
- OP lost a 220mm Sleipnir without webs, TE or neuts.
- the killer used a Svipul with a full shield regen fit that will tank ~330 dps vs EMP ammo (top tip: using EMP vs Minnie T2/T3 is already dumb as fck), I'm assuming a svipul fit that player lost elsewhere


No webs and no TE on the sleip is already a recipe for distaster when dealing with smaller targets but lets go with it, given how that Svipul is AB fit it's not hindered in any way and thus completely gets to choose how that fight is going to end up once both are in scram range.

Here's a graph of both fits using less than 100% orbit speed, it shows that only at longer ranges (beyond what said Svipul would ever choose to do) the Sleip would exceed the required dps to break that tank. At ranges the Svipul wants to be the Sleip's applied dps is lol. Simply put: in this specific scenario the svipul could tank the Sleip till the end of days. It would get even more silly if the Svipul would choose to use prop mode, which it would initially anyway.

Taking into account the prevalence of T3D in general and Svipul in particular OP should probably done the math on this one in a "what if" scenario assessment and realise that in a 1v1 within scram range this is a no-win situation, before committing to it headfirst like someone who doesn't have the first clue on tracking.


Nice rant post btw.


- edit for constructive input -

A small neut would have emptied his cap long before he'd ever kill you, dropping his ab/scram and giving you the initative to get range and apply your dps properly.
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