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The RP value of deleting SP's
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Beaches
#1 - 2012-01-06 14:52:36 UTC
As a pure Galentee combat pilot in the EVE universe, why do I have mining skills, why do I have Minmatar ship skills, why do I have shield skills? I can see why other people have and are ok with playing a diverse capsuleer but not me!

Let's compare it to a young girl dating a boy from a different caste, or race. At the time she thought it would be a good idea. But then she grew up and was ashamed of it and hated it about herself. To bad, she can't change it, it's real life, she has to live with it forever.

But this is a game and in this universe we should have more control over out character's lives. Moreover, some of these 'choices' were never choices at all, they were forced down our throats during character creation. Some are just pointless skill books we accidentally plugged in but don't want to train, and they look like **** on our skill sheet.

Let that girl erase Mining IV, Minmatar Frigate III, Shield Operation 0

Please let us erase unwanted things from our past.

Even in real life you can do this. Why did God design alcohol or Marijuana to perform this funtion? That's not even mentioning Opium.

Please let us tidy up our character CCP. Let us tidy up their lives.
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2012-01-06 15:02:36 UTC
I've been RPing since mid-2003, and I really don't feel any need to delete those Caldari ship skills I have despite taking an oath to never fly anything that wasn't Amarrian in 2003.

I'd much rather the devs spent their time fixing problems that actually exist.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Traska Gannel
Pyke Syndicate
Solyaris Chtonium
#3 - 2012-01-06 15:02:57 UTC
LOL ... and you have never learned useless things when you went to school?

From an EVE RP perspective the skills you start off with are based on your chosen background, faction, and career path ... which are all RP elements ... unless you want to have cortical surgery to excise part of your brain or perhaps a lobotomy or a targetted nanite memory removal ... you are stuck with the skills you have ... but don't expect any of these removal procedures to give you any SP back :)
Beaches
#4 - 2012-01-06 15:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Beaches
Rodj Blake wrote:
I've been RPing since mid-2003, and I really don't feel any need to delete those Caldari ship skills I have despite taking an oath to never fly anything that wasn't Amarrian in 2003.

I'd much rather the devs spent their time fixing problems that actually exist.


Ok [retracted dildo comment], irrelevant, you aren't even a real RPer or you wouldn't try to interfere with another's RP.

And as if it would take the dev's any amount of time at all to add a delete button. Don't let them trick you into thinking that the loot all button took 10 years, even though it did, it shouldn't have.

edit: redactions
seany1212
M Y S T
#5 - 2012-01-06 15:06:00 UTC
Dumb idea, you'll end up with people going "OMG I ACCIDENTLY MY WHOLE SKILLS" and then sobbing to CCP they deleted them by mistake and demanding some reimbursement, not to mention if you didn't want to train them why add them in the first place? Don't get me wrong i've got skills that were from the beginning when you started with 800k SP in skills dictated by your bloodline selection but i see them pointless to remove as maybe when i've got nothing left to train then i'll move onto those. I'm guessing its for those with a potential OCD complex that wants there EVE board page to be immaculately vertical Roll
Mokokan
Transtar Services
#6 - 2012-01-06 15:06:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mokokan
In the spirit of EVE, I say go ahead. Tidy up your character and remove all those ebil contaminents to your pure soul.


Or whatever. Sounds like the prep work for Ethnic cleansing of EVE. Might actually be fun for the first six minutes.

And yes, mine made more sense than yours, at least. You want the Role Playing server, second "door" to the right.
Beaches
#7 - 2012-01-06 15:10:32 UTC
Mokokan wrote:
In the spirit of EVE, I say go ahead. Tidy up your character and remove all those ebil contaminents to your pure soul.


Or whatever. Sounds like the prep work for Ethnic cleansing of EVE. .



+1 for supporting my ideas, ignoring the rude unnecessary parts.
Mokokan
Transtar Services
#8 - 2012-01-06 15:22:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Mokokan
Beaches wrote:
Mokokan wrote:
In the spirit of EVE, I say go ahead. Tidy up your character and remove all those ebil contaminents to your pure soul.


Or whatever. Sounds like the prep work for Ethnic cleansing of EVE. .



+1 for supporting my ideas, ignoring the rude unnecessary parts.


Apologies. You're right. It was rude. I'm in a bad mood today.

EDIT: I do hope however, that you don't think I actually support bigotry and ethnic cleansing in either the real or virtual worlds. Yet I support your right to role play any damn thing you want. Just don't expect to get the forum equivalent to fluffy kittens for responses.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#9 - 2012-01-06 15:26:32 UTC
If that is the worst thing you can come up with to whine over then CCP is doing a damn fine job these days.Cool

And no, live with it. That is EVE for you.
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2012-01-06 15:27:46 UTC
eve is about choice and consequences

you made the choice to spend those skillpoints, and to not capitolize on them now.. now face the consequences.

-1
Zoron Dadakath
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-06 15:28:04 UTC
Not sure if troll
Clementina
University of Caille
#12 - 2012-01-06 15:29:53 UTC
Ma'am, If you read up on Minmatar ship flying skills then at some time in your life you wanted to fly Minmatar. I don't know what they teach at the Federal Navy Academy, but back in the day when I went to the University of Caille I was taught only Gallente frigates in their combined STEM/Starship Captain program. Also, I think there are more skills being taught after graduation than in the past. Everyone in my generation had to learn Mining 1, even if they didn't want to. I've been told that this is no longer the case.

I would nevertheless support this except for the fact that I no longer can identify any of my useless skills. I once had Small Projectiles 3 for the longest time without being able to fly Minmatar, but I've since trained Minmatar Frigates.
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
#13 - 2012-01-06 15:44:33 UTC
Removing skills does not make sense from a RP point. The skills you trained or started with are part of the background and history of your character and there is really nothing wrong if you decided at one point you wanted ice harvesting 5 and exhumers 5.

If some super-awesome pvp corps things they don't want/need members because they trained some-non combat skills in their career then it is their loss and you are better off without wasting your time with these guys.

....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced.
Wacktopia
Fleet-Up.com
Keep It Simple Software Group
#14 - 2012-01-06 16:13:01 UTC
Deleting SP is a terrible idea.

If you really want to give it a go... try podding yourself with no clone a few times... you might get lucky.

Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together -  Fleet-Up.com
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-06 16:16:18 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
Beaches wrote:
As a pure Galentee combat pilot in the EVE universe, why do I have mining skills, why do I have Minmatar ship skills, why do I have shield skills? I can see why other people have and are ok with playing a diverse capsuleer but not me!

Let's compare it to a young girl dating a boy from a different caste, or race. At the time she thought it would be a good idea. But then she grew up and was ashamed of it and hated it about herself. To bad, she can't change it, it's real life, she has to live with it forever.

But this is a game and in this universe we should have more control over out character's lives. Moreover, some of these 'choices' were never choices at all, they were forced down our throats during character creation. Some are just pointless skill books we accidentally plugged in but don't want to train, and they look like **** on our skill sheet.

Let that girl erase Mining IV, Minmatar Frigate III, Shield Operation 0

Please let us erase unwanted things from our past.

Even in real life you can do this. Why did God design alcohol or ********* to perform this funtion? That's not even mentioning Opium.

Please let us tidy up our character CCP. Let us tidy up their lives.


some gallente ships fair better with good navigation & shield skills.... pretty much every gallente frig & destroyer needs it,

even some cruisers /bc do good with shields.... arazu & brutix are far better sheild buff tanked than it is armor tanked.

also you only start with mining 2 not 4... if you trained it to 4 than thats your fault for being a carebear

Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs.
Professor Alphane
Les Corsaires Diable
#16 - 2012-01-06 16:26:29 UTC
Beaches wrote:
Rodj Blake wrote:
I've been RPing since mid-2003, and I really don't feel any need to delete those Caldari ship skills I have despite taking an oath to never fly anything that wasn't Amarrian in 2003.

I'd much rather the devs spent their time fixing problems that actually exist.


Ok [retracted dildo comment], irrelevant, you aren't even a real RPer or you wouldn't try to interfere with another's RP.


Get over yourself, insulting someone else because they don't +1 you.

On topic- Your a roleplayer, you like to use your inagination, my advice come up with a reason why there there or even god forbid learn to ingnore it.

[center]YOU MUST THINK FIRST....[/center] [center]"I sit with the broken angels clutching at straws and nursing our scars.." - Marillion [/center] [center]The wise man watches the rise and fall of fools from afar[/center]
Barkaial Starfinder
Brazilian Vultures
Ferrata Victrix
#17 - 2012-01-06 16:28:13 UTC
Is this a troll?
It has to be.
Otherwise I can't go on.
John Caesse
Just Post Inc.
#18 - 2012-01-06 16:46:36 UTC
OP, are you RPing a ****** or is that your RL persona bleeding through?
Orlacc
#19 - 2012-01-06 17:02:35 UTC
RP is not the responsibility of the game-maker, it is the player's responsibility.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-01-06 17:17:10 UTC
Beaches wrote:
As a pure Galentee combat pilot in the EVE universe, why do I have mining skills, why do I have Minmatar ship skills, why do I have shield skills? I can see why other people have and are ok with playing a diverse capsuleer but not me!

Let's compare it to a young girl dating a boy from a different caste, or race. At the time she thought it would be a good idea. But then she grew up and was ashamed of it and hated it about herself. To bad, she can't change it, it's real life, she has to live with it forever.

But this is a game and in this universe we should have more control over out character's lives. Moreover, some of these 'choices' were never choices at all, they were forced down our throats during character creation. Some are just pointless skill books we accidentally plugged in but don't want to train, and they look like **** on our skill sheet.

Let that girl erase Mining IV, Minmatar Frigate III, Shield Operation 0

Please let us erase unwanted things from our past.

Even in real life you can do this. Why did God design alcohol or ********* to perform this funtion? That's not even mentioning Opium.

Please let us tidy up our character CCP. Let us tidy up their lives.


Awsome plzzz tell me how you forgoth you the girl you stil love, who dosnt loveyou, awsome that you can just delete these things.
dude come on.
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