Crime & Punishment

You are most certainly free to have your own theory on this situation, but I find it funny that there are cries of ganker recycling when there's really no hard evidence or proof as to why that character was deleted.

Of course there's hard evidence - I read about it on the internets.

I'm pretty sure dec dodging isn't explicitly against the rules, as it is with gank alt recycling (correct me if I'm wrong here)

No it wasn't. It was never an exploit. Feel free to find the dev blog or post confirming otherwise. This is another one of these times that you guys have made stuff up to make you seem hard done by.

You heard it here first folks, dodging wardecs is now an exploit and is a bannable offense.

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The only exploit I have ever heard about in reference to dropping corp during a wardec was when you could drop corp while in space. Basically, if you have no roles or titles you can drop corp immediately. It used to be that you did not need to be docked to drop corp. So what would happen is one of your opponents would drop corp while you were pursuing them, and when you went to shoot them, CONCORD would kill you; because they were no longer a valid target. Because you know in the heat of battle, you don't really bother to check if they are still in the same corp they were in a minute ago.

With regards to hyperdunking, having another puller saves the time of warping off grid and back with the DPS character.

I have a puller for moving Concord when someone else leaves a gate dirty or gets butt hurt and purposely pulls Concord to the gate. You don't want your ganker flashy if a target comes along.

It's not a gamebreaker if it goes below -5, it just means it gets considerably more difficult to time things properly.

No. You just need to pull CONCORD with an equal number of players for the number of CONCORD instances that have spawned, not the exact same characters.

Let's try to explain this way: Right after downtime there are zero CONCORD spawns in every system. If you commit a criminal act by yourself, one CONCORD will spawn and destroy you. From then on, if another single person commits a criminal act in that system, that original CONCORD spawn will warp to the new location. If two people simultaneously commit a criminal act, the first CONCORD spawn will warp to them, and a second new CONCORD will spawn and together they will kill the offenders. Now, if later a single ganker commits a criminal act, only one of these two CONCORD spawns will warp to the site of the offense, and the original will stay in the same place.

It is not important who originally spawned CONCORD - any criminal can move them. But it is important that at least the same number of criminals undock/go criminal at the same time in order that all the CONCORD spawns are moved. This is why gankers pull together after each gank to make each and every spawn is off the gate. However, if you are just a single ganker and you know there is only one CONCORD spawned in system (or if there is multiple you can move the closest), you can move them around with another character.

Yeah so like I said I had a character that I used for pulling concord off grid. [/quote]
A small point here, perhaps you could clarify a bit further. My ganking experience is limited, but in my understanding the act of pulling Concord must be done by every character that participates in the gank and then again after the completion of the gank to prepare for the next attempt. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that point.

So.. Based on my assumption's above being accurate, if you were using that character to pull Concord off grid then that was in preparation of that character participating in another gank attempt.

This is the first time I've heard of a character used for the sole purpose of Concord manipulation and even if what you say is the truth I don't think it matters how the sec status of the character got into the negative.

Perhaps someone could come along and clarify this.[/quote]
This is why it's laughable that someone would think that I recycled my "ganking alt" that was literally only used to pull concord. All I needed to do to pull concord was undock and shoot the station, dock up, board noobship, undock and let concord kill me... Poof! Concord is pulled. So how does going -5 make that harder in any way?

You can also pull while in space... Lets assume the freighter is in his ewarp safe and logged off. Warp an Orca / Bowhead to a safe around 250km from the freighter and either jettison shuttles there or leave the orca / bowhead there from the puller to pull directly from the bay. You go GCC by shooting a station / player / however you want, then you warp your pod to the orca / bowhead and board a shuttle. Once you board a shuttle and concord has killed you, you can board a bomber with your ganker and start shooting. Once your ganker has been killed by concord and is sitting in his pod, you can board another shuttle with your puller.

So being -5 literally has no effect on how easy it is to do this. Try again space-nerds.

Thanks for all the reply's about the Concord pulling mechanic.
In Faylee's situation however I doubt ccp cares whether or not the recycled character in question was a "ganker alt " or a Concord pulling alt. I certainly don't see any distinction when it comes to recycling character's with neg sec status.