Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Had an idea for this ship that I wanted to run by everyone.

So,
Remove Gallente bonus to drone damage and HP.
Change bonus to - can fit 1 drone control unit per level.

Remove laser optimal bonus.
Change to - 100% bonus to drone control range.

Increase drone BW to 250 (double), but leave drone bay as is.

Reduce the high slots to 5. (possibly -1 low if necessary to balance tank/dps)

Remove scan probe bonus (cause who uses it?)
change to - remote rep cap usage.

Remove hacking bonuses.
Give it anything but hacking bonuses.

Now, it's a bit like a mini-carrier.
You choose between RR and dps.


This does a couple things.

1) Makes the Nestor a better ship (IMO)
2) Gives at least one ship that is a middle ground between a standard BS and a carrier. (drones are quite skill intensive)
3) Many players have been wanting of a mini or escort carrier that was more mobile and fit into small fleets, as well as HS.


Balance:
The removal of a low slot would balance the drone dps out with tank. Less dps for more tank, or high dps with less tank.
Drone damage would be high when fitting a full fleet, but not extremely OP, as well as balanced by not increasing hold and remove HP bonus.
The increase to drone control range would basically make up for the removal of high slots.
The ship would also be given a bit of defense while set in logistics.
The only issue here becomes the use of 5 geckos, as a logi Nestor would then be capable of over 1k dps with geckos, but still run 5 RR in the highs. I'm not sure what can be done to address this, but it will eventually be a non-factor.


Thoughts?

I've heard it's decent in WH space, but outside of that, the ship is a bit lackluster.

I'm all for allowing it to ignore the weapons timer on refits.

Genuinely unique trait and if people want to throw billion plus isk mobile depots about well, more power to them

And let it use a covert ops cloak.

Give the Nestor anything but exploration bonuses. No one uses it to explore. It's the wrong ship class.

I'd honestly rather the Nestor was a combat ship than a logi ship. Logi battleships are just as bad as exploration battleships. They're gimped by speed, warp speed, and lock time. Just give the Nestor DPS bonuses, or leave its DPS as is and give it a t2 improved cloak and a jump drive. Blops Nestor FTW. Then it will even be in line with other blops cost wise.

That's if they use it at all. There are way better choices for WH than the Nestor. Logi battleships are just a big bag of fail. There's a reason they never released any to begin with. They would have either been OP or a complete failure. The Nestor is the latter.

I also don't think it should have a black ops cloak. But it should be able to take black ops portals. I don't think it should get a jump drive, or the ability to create portals though.

Its mass should be low enough that it can take a bridge, but would require a larger fuel commitment. Black Ops gangs could use a logistical support ship that can move around with the group. It has a fitting bay, it provides remote assistance, it has scanning bonuses (for what that is worth).

I think it would be a good asset to have with *Can take Black Ops Bridges. It doesn't upset the apple cart, since technically you can already to this with T3's + Mobile Depot or...just bring a Carrier or "FAX" when they drop.

No subcap reps harder.

It sees very common use on blinged out hotdrops.

Logi + Drones was a wet dream before they came out with +tracking bonus for drones. They basically designed a ship specifically for how many Domis were fit for years--spider tanks and drones.

Nestor is a great ship, and not just in wormholes. Replacing the scanning bonus will never happen. The scanning and exploration bonuses were specifically pointed out as being an extra bonus on the ship and if they were removed they would not be replaced with anything. All the repeated calls asking for a better bonus in their place can only hurt the ship.

The ship is a solid.

I have an idea!!
Let's be a douche instead of having a civil conversation!!

It's obvious the Nestor is extremely niche.
Is there something wrong with discussing making a ship more viable in multiple situations?

Besides, everyone knows CCP isn't grabbing ideas from the forums.
So, this is more like a "what if", as opposed to a "do this".

Having said that, I know life has been disappointing for you, and Eve is the only place you can go and burn that aggression by disappointing others, but we're not in game right now.
I'm sure you're just trying to follow your tough guy persona that you've established in game, but you must understand; speaking to me in that manner, in person, would accomplish nothing more than getting your nose broken, some bruised ribs, and possibly a fractured eye socket.
Just because you're safely on the other side of a computer does not mean that you should be a douche.
So, let's have a conversation and you can save the Douchery for blowing people up in game.