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★ 1.2t / 2.4t @1.5% // 'the Citadel XL bond' [Closed] ★

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Angelica Everstar
#1 - 2015-10-27 23:40:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Everstar
I been wanting to do a LONG term bond for a while now, since my investors are sad even when I close my bond after 6 months. So with the new XL citadel BPOs came a perfect opportunity. Therefore my proposition is as follows :



Chribba buys 1 citadel BPO maybe 2, depending on number of investors.

Chribba will receive 120b / 240b ISK, as collateral from me.
This is to over collateralize the bond (as per standard), and cover and loss of value and ensure my best behavior :)

Chribba will only grant me access to research and make copies of the BPOs.

Investors will receive a fixed 1.5% interest on investments per the 1st of each month, regardless of profits or losses on the investment.

The bond owners, which at this point already includes a few people, but is still open to more. Are those that are going to receive any profits after expenses or cover any losses.



This will be a LONG term bond, with intended end date.
Bond start date will be shortly before patch release of XL Citadels BPOs.

Currently we are looking for a feel for many people would be interested in this bond, as well as ideas, comments and maybe more bond owners.

More details below, as per previous bonds

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Angelica Everstar
#2 - 2015-10-27 23:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Everstar
Bond info, size and investors


Bond info & size :


Planned size : max 1.200b
Current size : 0b


Investors :


Current :
= 0b in total

Repaid :
= 0b in total

Reserved :
= 0b in total


== 0b in total

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Angelica Everstar
#3 - 2015-10-27 23:43:48 UTC
Amounts need to be in full billions.
Interest will be 15m per billion per each 1st of the month, full period
- For easier accounting

In the event of a default, or lack of collateral, investors will be refunded their capital investment and accrued interest to that point it's possible. Any ISK after the liquidation will be taken be Chribba as extra payment. investors will get priority by time of investment, if need be, after Chribba's pay.

No fixed duration. Expected many years.
Cash out requests requires 20 days notice.

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Angelica Everstar
#4 - 2015-10-27 23:44:45 UTC
Angelica Everstar
#5 - 2015-10-27 23:45:44 UTC
Just in case...

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Vanaunge
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-10-27 23:50:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Vanaunge
100 bill. Please reserve at least that for me
Angelica Everstar
#7 - 2015-10-27 23:52:23 UTC
That was quick Shocked

Noted - Thanks Big smile

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Vanaunge
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-10-27 23:56:05 UTC
I will liquidate some stuff, I wanna triple that b4 they come out
Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
#9 - 2015-10-28 00:10:48 UTC
Confused about your section regarding collateral and specifically this: "140b / 210b ISK".
Vanaunge
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-10-28 00:13:59 UTC
Chribba will hold the bpo, as well as an additionAL 140/210B from AE as he will NOT have access to the bpo other than to research and copy it. This will over collateralized the bond (as the bpo is still worth 700B) and since it is X2 he is wanting to do. AE is putting 10% of each bpo down as overcollertal
Angelica Everstar
#11 - 2015-10-28 00:16:38 UTC
Precise - is due to not knowing if it's going to be 2 or 3 BPOs - and the numbers are 10% of those

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Amarr Citizen 155
Nordar Innovations.
#12 - 2015-10-28 00:28:16 UTC
Gotcha, thanks you two for the clarification. Reserve 50b for me please.
Angelica Everstar
#13 - 2015-10-28 00:29:13 UTC
Noted

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Nightjester
Ghost Net Industrialists
Brotherhood of Spacers
#14 - 2015-10-28 00:40:22 UTC
Will Chribba be responsible if the BPO's are destroyed in transit? who would be liable to pay out investors if this happened ?

If Chribba takes full responsibility for the BPO and will pay out the full investment no matter what happens to the BPO's then put me down for 100B isk.
Angelica Everstar
#15 - 2015-10-28 00:53:43 UTC
I see no reason to move it, and if needed I would only accept it if done the way described or similar protection would be offered.
Otherwise I would rather cancel the bond, than run that sort of risk.


We will know before they are released thankfully :D

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Lisa Vallino
Simian Advanced Inc.
#16 - 2015-10-28 01:12:14 UTC
Lisa has been happy with the investments and steady returns AE has provided. I currently see no reason not to participate depending on Chribba and future information being provided from devs/AE. Tentatively, I can contribute 100-150B to the enterprise. I may wish for a BP copy in-lieu of interest payments.
Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
#17 - 2015-10-28 01:23:15 UTC
An interesting concept, Angelica! I am satisfied with the collateral being proposed and measures being taken to ensure safe keeping of the items.

I do have a concern, however, regarding the proposed return on investment. Since the copy time and consumption of blueprints can not be accurately assessed at this stage, how sure can you be of being capable of paying investors the proposed 1.5%/month stipend?

Additionally, as the facility to engage in the proposed activity is not currently available, may I presume that commitment of capital to the bond will be postponed until close to the time of the Citadel release?
Angelica Everstar
#18 - 2015-10-28 01:51:30 UTC
This is all depending on :
Chribba wanting to take part.
Numbers still show profit after the details are written in STONE.
Enough investors.
an all the details can be agreed on by all involved.



The bond owner are the ones running the risk.
I'm not investing all my ISK into this, so I can do my other trade ventures still, but also I can cover interest for a least a few months. This have been the standard for all my bonds.



Exit plan is to keep covering interest, until BPOs can be sold, and investors are returned their investments in full.
And if need be, use my 10% collateral to fill in any gab.

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Krevnos
Back Door Burglars
#19 - 2015-10-28 01:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Krevnos
Angelica Everstar wrote:
This is all depending on :
Chribba wanting to take part.
Numbers still show profit after the details are written in STONE.
Enough investors.
an all the details can be agreed on by all involved.



The bond owner are the ones running the risk.
I'm not investing all my ISK into this, so I can do my other trade ventures still, but also I can cover interest for a least a few months. This have been the standard for all my bonds.



Exit plan is to keep covering interest, until BPOs can be sold, and investors are returned their investments in full.
And if need be, use my 10% collateral to fill in any gab.



Thank you, Angelica. On the basis that profitability is indicated once the full details are divulged regarding these blueprints and Chribba is interested in taking part in this venture, I will commit to investing 200B with the bond holders.
TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#20 - 2015-10-28 02:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: TheSmokingHertog
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