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Leap Technologies
#161 - 2015-10-23 20:48:44 UTC
It's really funny how much this "protest" failed before it started.

I, like many others, support CCP's move.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#162 - 2015-10-24 00:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
i, i, i against i.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP

Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#163 - 2015-10-24 01:22:39 UTC
i will be there my eve brothers and sisters. may the force be with us.
Alt Pilot1
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#164 - 2015-10-24 01:56:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alt Pilot1
I fully support this new system of skill trading. It has multiple benefits, and no drawbacks that I can think of.

1. It gives characters more flexibility

2. Gives new players easier access to skill points.

The only people who complain are the ones who won't let go of their e-peens, because they don't want new players to advance too quickly.

Or maybe some people complain because they make their ISK by training / trading characters on the Character Bazaar, and they're worried that their income will be affected negatively because now everyone can see the exact market price that Skill Points are trading at.

Just like when officer / navy equipment went from strictly contract trading to market window trading. Maybe they're afraid this new system will make Skill Point market data too transparent, thus decreasing their income. Whether it happens or not, it's for the greater good.
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#165 - 2015-10-24 02:19:32 UTC
New system is fine?
General Lootit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2015-10-24 12:28:50 UTC
Deck Cadelanne
#167 - 2015-10-24 14:23:03 UTC
General Lootit wrote:
Daerrol wrote:
New system is fine?


Totally fine.

Still nothing to see here...moving along!

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

TheInternet TweepsOnline TheInternet
The Conference Elite
#168 - 2015-10-26 19:26:02 UTC
I've never seen CCP make a change that I didn't like.

Great job, CCP! You're the best!
Frostys Virpio
Goonswarm Federation
#169 - 2015-10-26 19:32:15 UTC
Joe Risalo wrote:

No matter how you look at it, this IS a "cash grab" as the system relies specifically on PLEX, which can only be introduced into the game through real cash purchase.

What's wrong with "cash grabs" anyway?

chelly Dian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#170 - 2015-10-26 19:53:10 UTC
No, I like the changes.

It could help new players and that alone is an amazing thing.

Furthermore buying SP has been around for ages.

Stop being poor.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#171 - 2015-10-26 21:05:17 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Joe Risalo wrote:

No matter how you look at it, this IS a "cash grab" as the system relies specifically on PLEX, which can only be introduced into the game through real cash purchase.

What's wrong with "cash grabs" anyway?


And buying characters costs 2 plex.

With the number of characters which sell every day, if CCP didn't have a monetization angle on it, they'd lose income.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

The Scope
Gallente Federation
#172 - 2015-10-26 21:20:05 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


ooh how 80's of you
Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
#173 - 2015-10-26 21:56:36 UTC
Unfortunately this time around its not going to work. Players are too disenfranchised with the game. It happened then because it was all a big shock. Nowadays people are just too apathetic from years of this bullshit. This will be a last straw for many but until it actually gets implemented you won't see the results.

The CSM XI Election are now open until March 25th, 2016. Consider Niko Lorenzio for CSM XI.

CSM matters, your voice matters, your vote matters!

Tau Rollard
Dynamic Security Solutions
#174 - 2015-10-26 22:24:47 UTC
I didn't agree with the riot of Incarnia entirely. Micro transactions were silly but i wanted them to work on a social expansion of this LITERAL SOCIAL GAME. Still majority rule doesn't work in a mental institution.

This is just posturing for someone who needs attention. People like you show the rest of the gaming community as bitchy autistic 10 year old grim-dark cry babies. Your delusional level of entitlement is the reason why we cant have nice things.

This is good for new players, good for business and most importantly GOOD FOR CONTENT!
Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#175 - 2015-10-27 06:09:34 UTC
Whoa, I missed it. how come :/
Well I belatedly support the move. I hate the changes.
Frank Pannon
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#176 - 2015-10-27 06:50:20 UTC
I support anything that brings more people into the game and facilitates those rough early days for newbies.

-1 for a riot, am late anyways.

A riot, what a stupid kneejerk reaction. People complaining about moneygrab pfff... I want CCP to make enough money, so that they can maintain their workforce, and keep developing this game I love, and keep playing it with my friends for many more years. Stop being so jaded.
Marcus Alexzander
#177 - 2015-10-27 16:10:50 UTC
I support all of the changes that CCP is planing. Long live EVE!

Blood and Toil

Streets of Fire
#178 - 2015-10-27 18:33:58 UTC
Even if the changes only help new players, I support it. There's no reason we can't give new players a helping hand when it comes to the brutal world of EVE Online. They're already racing through support skills just so they can fit what meager ships they have properly, let alone trying to get into better ship classes and bigger guns. Throw them a bone.
Malice Redeemer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2015-11-01 01:02:42 UTC
It's not going to help new players. It will cost far too much for them. These changes will help old players make alts and rich corps, mostly ones that recruit from outside of the game.
Iron Krosz
#180 - 2015-11-01 03:41:17 UTC
Valacus wrote:
Throw them a bone.

How is charging them real life money throwing them a bone ? It's exploiting them. Helping them would be something like increasing starting SP and lowering training times to reach level 5 for support skills or something that didn't cost extra ion top of the sub.