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When/why did Snakes lose their smuggling bonus?

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Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#1 - 2012-01-06 01:54:04 UTC
I just misinformed somebody that Snakes offered a smuggling bonus. Apparently they don't anymore. When did this happen?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2012-01-06 01:55:07 UTC
When did they?
And how did was it supposed to have worked?
Siigari Kitawa
Operation Sleepless
#3 - 2012-01-06 01:57:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Siigari Kitawa
I am not crazy. They totally had a smuggling bonus. It was some tertiary bonus with the drop icon in the attributes window. Whaaa?

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=19551 <-- look at attributes

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Widemouth Deepthroat
Pink Sockers
#4 - 2012-01-06 01:59:40 UTC
I'm pretty sure that didn't work which is why it was removed.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-01-06 02:00:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Now that you mention it… Wasn't that the same thing as the skill (the name escapes me now) that they never actually implemented?

Maybe they just dumped it form the info because the actual mechanic was never put into place… vOv

edit: Anyway, I can't remember seeing it since the time I started considering getting some, which would make the removal date at the latest 2008, if not earlier (±senility factor).
Wot I Think
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-06 02:01:51 UTC
On the same website:
Smuggling:
Proficiency at laying low and avoiding unwanted attention. From a base of 90%, each level of skill reduces by 10% the likelihood of being scanned while transporting contraband.

Click on the Attribute to see what else shares this ability, sure enough it is also shared by the now removed skill:
http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=3448
Winters Chill
Unitas Incorporated
#7 - 2012-01-06 02:03:13 UTC
iirc there used to be a smuggling skill you could pick and train in character creation, I think it was available in the amarr bloodline. Some of the older item databases show various not included specialty smuggling skills, such as drone smuggling and such nonsense.

But yeah never been included or worked.

EDIT: someone beat me to it.
Wot I Think
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-01-06 02:14:08 UTC
Winters Chill wrote:
someone beat me to it.


Not just someone.... WOT I THINK!
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#9 - 2012-01-06 02:25:15 UTC
Stuff useful to smugglers...

Skills
Hypernet Science
Black Market Trading
Smuggling

Mods
Test Scan Signature Suppression Field II
Smugglers Mask I

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Vyl Vit
#10 - 2012-01-06 08:11:59 UTC
It was a sNuggling bonus. You misread. Cuddle up to yours and reconsider.

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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#11 - 2012-01-06 10:36:33 UTC
I think it was with crucible or so. One patch notes said they removed the snakes bonus at the bottom about 2-4 months ago or so maybe.

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CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2012-01-06 10:43:30 UTC
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.
Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
#13 - 2012-01-06 10:47:21 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
...We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. ...


:)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#14 - 2012-01-06 10:57:06 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.



Am I correct in thinking, then, that you're not sure how your own game works? LolOops

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Bumble's Space Log
Comy 1
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-01-06 11:02:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Comy 1
Bumblefck wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.



Am I correct in thinking, then, that you're not sure how your own game works? LolOops


I doubt no one person that is part of any bigger team handeling a large project like an MMO (or any other system for that matter) knows all parts of it.

An MMO is a never ending work, with pieces of it constantly added, removed or changed. Some of them (I would guess core functions) are made to be able to handle constant rework, while some are just magically assembled and kept that way "because it works!" (I think everyone that did any kind of programming can relate to this).

With this said, I have no doubt in mind that Grayscale have no clue about how the deep secrets of the customs work. Big smile
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-01-06 11:02:31 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.



Am I correct in thinking, then, that you're not sure how your own game works? LolOops


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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#17 - 2012-01-06 11:03:17 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.



Am I correct in thinking, then, that you're not sure how your own game works? LolOops


Not unusual with a game this old. Alot of the older code was written by people who no longer work there, and they never explained it to anyone else/commented code properly/got it debugged to the point that it made sense.

Maintaining someone elses code usually involves alot of guesswork and hope. Shocked

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The Snowman
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-01-06 11:08:51 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.


Scientists also believe that parts of our brain dont work either..... Good job CCP dont run a hospital isnt it!
Zowie Powers
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-01-06 11:44:38 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
"Snake implants no longer list a bonus to smuggling as one of their attributes.", Crucible patch notes. We took it out because it didn't actually do anything, at least as far as we could tell. The customs mechanics are sufficiently... opaque that it's hard to be 100% sure.


Is this why when caught by customs you can just not bother answering their question until downtime to evade their wrath?

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