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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-10-21 15:18:58 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Renier Gaden wrote:
Kayden Katelo wrote:
Had they just made the game for the computer in the first place I would have been a happy Dust Bunny. Now I have to wait for the port.

If the original development team had developed it for PC rather than PS3 they still would have screwed it up. With the current team there is a chance they will do it right. So maybe it was for the best...


EVE is golden on PC. Valkyrie is golden on PC. Gunjack is.... Gunjack.


Dust, however, really needs to be on console simply for integrity reasons. Hit scan based FPS is simply too vulnerable to hacking and the ability to play for free means there is no deterrent from creating accounts purely to make the lives of others a living hell in pubs. And we all know just how fast CCP customer service responds to support tickets.... yea. I don't think Archdukey is up to the task on fighting an army of undead hackers.


PS4 will serve it well. CCP just needs to make it happen.

Yeah, noone at all plays FPSs on a PC..........

...
.
Sarayu Wyvern
The Bosena Accords
Round Table Assembly
#42 - 2015-10-22 00:39:05 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Renier Gaden wrote:
Kayden Katelo wrote:
Had they just made the game for the computer in the first place I would have been a happy Dust Bunny. Now I have to wait for the port.

If the original development team had developed it for PC rather than PS3 they still would have screwed it up. With the current team there is a chance they will do it right. So maybe it was for the best...


EVE is golden on PC. Valkyrie is golden on PC. Gunjack is.... Gunjack.


Dust, however, really needs to be on console simply for integrity reasons. Hit scan based FPS is simply too vulnerable to hacking and the ability to play for free means there is no deterrent from creating accounts purely to make the lives of others a living hell in pubs. And we all know just how fast CCP customer service responds to support tickets.... yea. I don't think Archdukey is up to the task on fighting an army of undead hackers.


PS4 will serve it well. CCP just needs to make it happen.

Yeah, noone at all plays FPSs on a PC..........

...
.

The point he's trying to make is that it's easier to use hacks in a PC game than it is on a console simply because a console has very limited software.

Yeah, I know, saying that is practically heresy but as a PC gamer myself, it's something we have to admit is an issue.

Alt of MidnightWyvern. (Mobius Wyvern in Dust 514)
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#43 - 2015-10-22 02:31:20 UTC
Exactly that. I'm a PC enthusiast myself but I recognize some games are more ideal for the platform than others.

That and, if we're being honest here.... aside from valve games the FPS population on PC doesn't exactly keep pace with consoles anymore. Compare nearly any multi-platform FPS that is properly supported on both versions and the console population typically exceeds PC population, with the one major exception being counter-strike.
VaL Iscariot
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-10-22 06:35:05 UTC
Can confirm I would be playing DUST 514 right now if it was ported. Come on CCP. Make it happen already.
-PC Gaming Master Race
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#45 - 2015-10-22 16:23:48 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Exactly that. I'm a PC enthusiast myself but I recognize some games are more ideal for the platform than others.

That and, if we're being honest here.... aside from valve games the FPS population on PC doesn't exactly keep pace with consoles anymore. Compare nearly any multi-platform FPS that is properly supported on both versions and the console population typically exceeds PC population, with the one major exception being counter-strike.

That was part of what saddened me about Star Wars Battlefront not being like the first two. I've heard the gameplay is fun, but for me it completely lacks the sense of scale the first two titles had that made them really enjoyable.

Dust 514 first attracted my attention because it reminded me of the combined-arms FPSes I loved on PC but promised a larger scale than even those could manage. To be honest, I first was intrigued because they said they'd have jets and I wanted a combined-arms game that treated them in a more realistic manner like they do with Dropship handling.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#46 - 2015-10-23 11:50:44 UTC
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#47 - 2015-10-23 14:59:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
MidnightWyvern wrote:
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.


You mean not?

I'd have trouble even paying a person to work a POS out of molden heath with the current bonuses. They are terrible. From what I've heard CCP didn't want to make them any better either, because they were afraid of one power block essentially monopolizing molden heath and taking advantage of it if it was actually something beneficial to the game. A not-so-rare instance of a CCP dev being scared to mess with something. They should learn from Rattati and just hit all the buttons tbh.


If Nullarbor isn't going to give bonuses that are actually worth a damn he should just save his breath and work on something else. Our alliance has the vast majority of districts in MH and we can't find anyone who gives a damn. I'm sure nobody else can either. It's a symbolic link only, not an effective one. And it's bad enough to the point its almost offensive :/
Sarayu Wyvern
The Bosena Accords
Round Table Assembly
#48 - 2015-10-23 16:06:58 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
MidnightWyvern wrote:
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.


You mean not?

I'd have trouble even paying a person to work a POS out of molden heath with the current bonuses. They are terrible. From what I've heard CCP didn't want to make them any better either, because they were afraid of one power block essentially monopolizing molden heath and taking advantage of it if it was actually something beneficial to the game. A not-so-rare instance of a CCP dev being scared to mess with something. They should learn from Rattati and just hit all the buttons tbh.


If Nullarbor isn't going to give bonuses that are actually worth a damn he should just save his breath and work on something else. Our alliance has the vast majority of districts in MH and we can't find anyone who gives a damn. I'm sure nobody else can either. It's a symbolic link only, not an effective one. And it's bad enough to the point its almost offensive :/

20% reduction to fuel use and 40% reduction to manufacturing time are useless?

Alt of MidnightWyvern. (Mobius Wyvern in Dust 514)
Juno Reborn
Obscure Reference
#49 - 2015-10-24 14:23:55 UTC
So no word of taking over ships in Eve Vegas?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#50 - 2015-10-24 14:26:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Sarayu Wyvern wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
MidnightWyvern wrote:
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.


You mean not?

I'd have trouble even paying a person to work a POS out of molden heath with the current bonuses. They are terrible. From what I've heard CCP didn't want to make them any better either, because they were afraid of one power block essentially monopolizing molden heath and taking advantage of it if it was actually something beneficial to the game. A not-so-rare instance of a CCP dev being scared to mess with something. They should learn from Rattati and just hit all the buttons tbh.


If Nullarbor isn't going to give bonuses that are actually worth a damn he should just save his breath and work on something else. Our alliance has the vast majority of districts in MH and we can't find anyone who gives a damn. I'm sure nobody else can either. It's a symbolic link only, not an effective one. And it's bad enough to the point its almost offensive :/

20% reduction to fuel use and 40% reduction to manufacturing time are useless?


Believe it or not, yes.

Time spent babysitting a lowsec pos could be used to do literally anything else and it would achieve better profit. If anyone wanted to do it, people would be doing it.
Arla Sarain
#51 - 2015-10-24 15:18:35 UTC
Kuronaga wrote:
Sarayu Wyvern wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
MidnightWyvern wrote:
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.


You mean not?

I'd have trouble even paying a person to work a POS out of molden heath with the current bonuses. They are terrible. From what I've heard CCP didn't want to make them any better either, because they were afraid of one power block essentially monopolizing molden heath and taking advantage of it if it was actually something beneficial to the game. A not-so-rare instance of a CCP dev being scared to mess with something. They should learn from Rattati and just hit all the buttons tbh.


If Nullarbor isn't going to give bonuses that are actually worth a damn he should just save his breath and work on something else. Our alliance has the vast majority of districts in MH and we can't find anyone who gives a damn. I'm sure nobody else can either. It's a symbolic link only, not an effective one. And it's bad enough to the point its almost offensive :/

20% reduction to fuel use and 40% reduction to manufacturing time are useless?


Believe it or not, yes.

Time spent babysitting a lowsec pos could be used to do literally anything else and it would achieve better profit. If anyone wanted to do it, people would be doing it.

If nobody is interested in it then why do you have to babysit the POS...?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#52 - 2015-10-24 18:05:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Arla Sarain wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
Sarayu Wyvern wrote:
Kuronaga wrote:
MidnightWyvern wrote:
I got a CSM response to my thread asking about whether the current POS bonuses from Dust Districts would transfer to Citadels, and he said that CCP Nullarbor - who set up the bonuses - is working on the Citadels so it's highly likely the bonuses will be redone to work with them.

That's some good news from a Dust-EVE link standpoint. Hopefully the new bonuses are as good as the current ones.


You mean not?

I'd have trouble even paying a person to work a POS out of molden heath with the current bonuses. They are terrible. From what I've heard CCP didn't want to make them any better either, because they were afraid of one power block essentially monopolizing molden heath and taking advantage of it if it was actually something beneficial to the game. A not-so-rare instance of a CCP dev being scared to mess with something. They should learn from Rattati and just hit all the buttons tbh.


If Nullarbor isn't going to give bonuses that are actually worth a damn he should just save his breath and work on something else. Our alliance has the vast majority of districts in MH and we can't find anyone who gives a damn. I'm sure nobody else can either. It's a symbolic link only, not an effective one. And it's bad enough to the point its almost offensive :/

20% reduction to fuel use and 40% reduction to manufacturing time are useless?


Believe it or not, yes.

Time spent babysitting a lowsec pos could be used to do literally anything else and it would achieve better profit. If anyone wanted to do it, people would be doing it.

If nobody is interested in it then why do you have to babysit the POS...?


I don't. Nobody does. That's the entire point. The man of average intelligence has found that simply not having a POS is better than having one, ergo there is nobody to take advantage of said bonus.

POS's are like those stupid tamagachi things all the lonely fat children had at school 18 years ago. If you don't constantly feed it, exercise it, play with it and re-assure it then it will die/and or take a giant dump inside your POS shield. Nobody wants to deal with that. Even attacking the things are a drawn-out nuisance.

Frankly, I'm not sure who's the bigger villain of EVE. The POS or the asteroid. Technically, the asteroid dies faster. Yields profit faster too, probably. That's saying something.
Esstlyn Danzelia
Doomheim
#53 - 2015-10-24 18:31:18 UTC
Cat Troll wrote:
Renier Gaden wrote:


#portdust514


New Eden is a richer, deeper universe if it has more than just spaceships.

New Eden doesn't have enough Dakka.

That's why we need Gallente Assault suits running around with Plasma Rifles shooting stuff at 1000RPM.
Maximum Dakka, maximum freedom. "DakkadakkadakkadakkaFREEDOMdakkadakkadakka" if you will.


did
You say
Daka?


Blood Raiders are obs agents of Khorne sent from the warp
Jaylyn Dranera
BobVult
#54 - 2015-10-24 23:51:07 UTC
Juno Reborn wrote:
So no word of taking over ships in Eve Vegas?


No word on anything. Hence the OP.
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#55 - 2015-10-25 01:54:58 UTC
Jaylyn Dranera wrote:
Juno Reborn wrote:
So no word of taking over ships in Eve Vegas?


No word on anything. Hence the OP.

CCP Frame already warned us there'd be no mention of Dust at any public events before they post on the forums. They said they don't want to repeat the mistake of FanFest 2014.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Jaylyn Dranera
BobVult
#56 - 2015-10-25 22:59:42 UTC
Honestly I was part of the good for them crowd during the Rouge Wedding the console mass suicide that followed though was disheartening the play it safe and do nothing upper leadership decision making has made Dust into the freak in the locked basement. Please stop ignoring it the community is ready just handle whatever decision you make with more class this time.
MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#57 - 2015-10-26 12:06:00 UTC
Jaylyn Dranera wrote:
Honestly I was part of the good for them crowd during the Rouge Wedding the console mass suicide that followed though was disheartening the play it safe and do nothing upper leadership decision making has made Dust into the freak in the locked basement. Please stop ignoring it the community is ready just handle whatever decision you make with more class this time.

Yes, we just want our game to have a future. Some people are going to be disappointed either way, but it'll be better for all of us in the long run.

Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!

Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
Ghost Kiasar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#58 - 2015-10-26 14:39:56 UTC
MidnightWyvern wrote:
Jaylyn Dranera wrote:
Juno Reborn wrote:
So no word of taking over ships in Eve Vegas?


No word on anything. Hence the OP.

CCP Frame already warned us there'd be no mention of Dust at any public events before they post on the forums. They said they don't want to repeat the mistake of FanFest 2014.


The mistake that the entire CPM warned them of X

At this point, I just want news. Whether an axe is ready to fall, or whether we will be lifted from purgatory.

The suspense is killing me.

Director of Fatal Absolution || Matari Loyalist

#PortDust514, don't let things like this become a memory.
Jaylyn Dranera
BobVult
#59 - 2015-10-26 19:15:29 UTC
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3qaurv/things_you_never_knew_about_dust514_capital/

Yes it's on Reddit too now. Resume the beatings till morale improves!
Ghost Kiasar
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2015-10-26 19:41:43 UTC
Jaylyn Dranera wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3qaurv/things_you_never_knew_about_dust514_capital/

Yes it's on Reddit too now. Resume the beatings till morale improves!


CSM thread made as well. , CPM thread on Dust side.

Lets revive the EVE-Dust Link!

Director of Fatal Absolution || Matari Loyalist

#PortDust514, don't let things like this become a memory.