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Hulkageddon V: Unholy Union update: TONIGHT AT 0:00

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#281 - 2012-01-05 22:38:41 UTC
Billionaire Carebear wrote:
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Devs are on our side


Seems like it is just what the game was designed for, massive user co-operation. It makes mining a seasonal activity, like farming. January thru March is winter for the miner. Time to do research or play the market or go into production. The players are shaping the game as much as the game is shaping the players, and that is a good thing.


Poaching out of season is encouraged too Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

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Selinate
#282 - 2012-01-06 07:00:32 UTC
You all are TERRIBLE people for doing this to poor people who work so hard to get enough isk for those hulks from mining those measly high sec asteroids. Shame on you. You internet deviants should get a life.

Now, while I'm hoping all the carebears are just reading the first part of my post so that they'll still trust me, I'm going to go buy a few hulks for when the prices skyrocket. Thanks again for the opportunity hulkageddoners.
Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#283 - 2012-01-06 08:43:48 UTC
Ideally what I'd like to say to mining pilots is "dont get mad, get even."

But unfortunaltey due to a player bounty system that has been abusable and broken for such a long time, it seems the gankers have more possibilities to easily hide away from any effective player policing system.
Amun Khonsu
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#284 - 2012-01-06 09:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Juliana Stinger wrote:
Hope you achieve your goal and all miners leave the game, so the prices on ships in the market jump in to the heaven.


Miners have very little to do with the Eve economy.



Ah yes...because minerals just "magically" appear out of thin air right?

Trap sprung!

The vast majority of minerals that are used to build stuff in Eve come from mission runners reprocessing loot and botters killing millions of drones in the drone regions.


No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Charlie Crocodile
Sorfus Morfus
#285 - 2012-01-06 11:38:49 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Juliana Stinger wrote:
Hope you achieve your goal and all miners leave the game, so the prices on ships in the market jump in to the heaven.


Miners have very little to do with the Eve economy.



Ah yes...because minerals just "magically" appear out of thin air right?

Trap sprung!

The vast majority of minerals that are used to build stuff in Eve come from mission runners reprocessing loot and botters killing millions of drones in the drone regions.


No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.


You lost me at "Try building anything...
Amun Khonsu
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#286 - 2012-01-06 12:31:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
Charlie Crocodile wrote:


You lost me at "Try building anything...
#

Lets make this easy for some of you.

If access to materials is hindered, less building happens. If little or no building happens, then prices go up. If prices go up, you pay more to buy stuff. If you pay more to buy stuff, you buy more plexes with real life cash (cuz missioning isnt going to suply all the isk you need to pvp, etc) and keep the EVE gods happy that you are the lemmings they want you to be.

The balance of supply and demand isnt that hard to understand.

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Charlie Crocodile
Sorfus Morfus
#287 - 2012-01-06 16:53:04 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Charlie Crocodile wrote:


You lost me at "Try building anything...
#

Lets make this easy for some of you.

WORDS

The balance of supply and demand isnt that hard to understand.


But apparently lack of interest rather than lack of comprehension is a new one to you...
Eddie Ballermaris
Caspian Rising Transport Exploration Division
#288 - 2012-01-06 20:03:43 UTC
I have been following the thread and though some think that the killing of transport type ships is fun, it should be considered that there are some of us who haul stuff because it can be relaxing. Smile

I haul regular contract cargoes, nothing too complicated or expensive. I have seen some of the down right silly ganker contracts that demand high ISK collateral and accordingly avoid them for good reason.

I am a relatively new player and it can be a pain when some idiot out of the blue blows a ship and pod kills for nothing more than the so called satisfaction of having a kil stat.

Some think that by driving up the prices there will be greater satisfaction in the game. I beg to differ. It harms the newer players still starting out. Before one harps that it is part of the game, there are some things to consider.

Though it might help the economy in the short term, in the long term it can have far reacing effects.

Removing bots which might be operating is a goal it is those like me who manually fly our lowly cargo vessels that end up getting the worst end of it.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the hauler community decided for a period of two weeks not to move ANY cargos or materials.

Hope all of you remember the actions one takes can have far reaching effects that go far beyond the Sec Rate.

Ballermaris
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#289 - 2012-01-06 20:21:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Billionaire Carebear
Eddie Ballermaris wrote:
It harms the newer players still starting out.


I am almost 7 months into the game. I tried most of the other games first. For me, EVE is the most challenging and satisfying game I have played thus far, precisely because it is hard, challenging, has a steep learning and investment curve. EVE is not for the casual player, there are no children here, EVE is for the dedicated player who wants more from a game. Honestly, if EVE had not kicked my arse during the trial then I never would have paid for it, much less still be here and now deeply involved. I would hope that you are still here in the future after finding your way through the fog of being new.

EDIT:
I am a dedicated miner, I avoid combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_law http://krypto451.deviantart.com/art/Care-Bears-Spanking-168001373 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Uu1yD-v0  George Carlin "They're Just Words."

Amun Khonsu
Ice Fire Warriors
Wild Geese.
#290 - 2012-01-06 21:47:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Amun Khonsu
...

Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#291 - 2012-01-06 22:28:19 UTC
Eddie Ballermaris wrote:
I have been following the thread and though some think that the killing of transport type ships is fun, it should be considered that there are some of us who haul stuff because it can be relaxing. Smile

I haul regular contract cargoes, nothing too complicated or expensive. I have seen some of the down right silly ganker contracts that demand high ISK collateral and accordingly avoid them for good reason.

I am a relatively new player and it can be a pain when some idiot out of the blue blows a ship and pod kills for nothing more than the so called satisfaction of having a kil stat.

Some think that by driving up the prices there will be greater satisfaction in the game. I beg to differ. It harms the newer players still starting out. Before one harps that it is part of the game, there are some things to consider.

Though it might help the economy in the short term, in the long term it can have far reacing effects.

Removing bots which might be operating is a goal it is those like me who manually fly our lowly cargo vessels that end up getting the worst end of it.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the hauler community decided for a period of two weeks not to move ANY cargos or materials.

Hope all of you remember the actions one takes can have far reaching effects that go far beyond the Sec Rate.

Ballermaris


Then we would just take our hauler/industrial alts and move the **** ourselves, the only reason the hauler community gets any business is because for most of eve its easier ,cheaper and way way less boring to pay someone else to do it.

Or some members of the hauler community with a few more braincells than you would decide to throw you a big '**** right off' and make a killing while all the others sit on their hands for the sake of some idiotic moral crusade. Thats of course doing you the courtesy of assuming you could even get them to listen to you in the first place.

So in summary, if youre a troll well done you got a bite, have a ******* biscuit. On the off chance you really are this stupid please engage that lump of meat between your ears for more things than reminding you you need to breath once in a while.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Eddie Ballermaris
Caspian Rising Transport Exploration Division
#292 - 2012-01-07 03:45:38 UTC
My my my...

A bit cranky are ya...

I make enough ISK to get by and still enjoy the universe too.

Perhaps you got short changed on a contract... When I lost my two contract hauls I explained to the owners what happened they were understanding and wanted the names of the ones that ganked me.

I was happy to provide and did so.

If I get ganked again while providing a cargo haul, I'll do the same again and hopefully someone will get podded nicely back to the iceage...

Have a nice day.

Ballermaris.

Ubiquitous Forum Alt
#293 - 2012-01-07 04:46:51 UTC
Eddie Ballermaris wrote:
My my my...

A bit cranky are ya...

I make enough ISK to get by and still enjoy the universe too.

Perhaps you got short changed on a contract... When I lost my two contract hauls I explained to the owners what happened they were understanding and wanted the names of the ones that ganked me.

I was happy to provide and did so.

If I get ganked again while providing a cargo haul, I'll do the same again and hopefully someone will get podded nicely back to the iceage...

Have a nice day.

Ballermaris.



Yeesh....4 posts ago you were warning of the apocalyptic, far-reaching consequences of ganking haulers.....and now you hope people gank you so you can go tattle to the contract owners and hope they have the balls to do something about it....

Real consistent there pal....Bear

I don't log in - I don't need to. My very existence griefs people. They see my name, and they instinctively fill with rage and indignation. Deny it all you want - but if you didn't care, you wouldn't have posted, would you?

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#294 - 2012-01-07 15:10:17 UTC
Ubiquitous Forum Alt wrote:
Eddie Ballermaris wrote:
My my my...

A bit cranky are ya...

I make enough ISK to get by and still enjoy the universe too.

Perhaps you got short changed on a contract... When I lost my two contract hauls I explained to the owners what happened they were understanding and wanted the names of the ones that ganked me.

I was happy to provide and did so.

If I get ganked again while providing a cargo haul, I'll do the same again and hopefully someone will get podded nicely back to the iceage...

Have a nice day.

Ballermaris.



Yeesh....4 posts ago you were warning of the apocalyptic, far-reaching consequences of ganking haulers.....and now you hope people gank you so you can go tattle to the contract owners and hope they have the balls to do something about it....

Real consistent there pal....Bear


Well congrats to you Eddie for exploiting peoples laziness, slightly spoiled by your utter lack of ability to actually do anything to cause these horrendous consequences you are so certain will happen. Friendly note - Crying to mommy hoping she'll fix it for you doesnt count by the way.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#295 - 2012-01-08 02:15:55 UTC
Amun Khonsu wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Drake Draconis wrote:
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Juliana Stinger wrote:
Hope you achieve your goal and all miners leave the game, so the prices on ships in the market jump in to the heaven.


Miners have very little to do with the Eve economy.



Ah yes...because minerals just "magically" appear out of thin air right?

Trap sprung!

The vast majority of minerals that are used to build stuff in Eve come from mission runners reprocessing loot and botters killing millions of drones in the drone regions.


No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.

Sure they do. When they buy cheap minerals off the market in Jita they don't know or care where they came from.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#296 - 2012-01-08 02:52:41 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Amun Khonsu wrote:

No it doesn't. Try building anything bc and above (or bulk frigs to cruisers) from reprocessed mission loot. Manufacturers do not manufacture the bulk of their ships from mission loot.

Sure they do. When they buy cheap minerals off the market in Jita they don't know or care where they came from.

Pretty much this right here.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#297 - 2012-01-08 03:01:27 UTC
Hulkageddon will be dealt with this year

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Oreb Wing
Last Rites.
Villore Accords
#298 - 2012-01-08 10:08:36 UTC
Green Beans wrote:
Hulkageddon? I better trade my Hulk for a Covetor, then. Instant gratification!


Foolish. That's like asking a hungry Goon if he'd like to skip his appetizer! I'm no Goon, but I always loved my appetizers best.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#299 - 2012-01-08 15:26:43 UTC
I got tired of idiots taking my legitimate courier jobs and going and getting themselves blown up so I tend to do my own hauling now.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)

Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#300 - 2012-01-08 15:57:52 UTC
Lady Spank wrote:
I got tired of idiots taking my legitimate courier jobs and going and getting themselves blown up so I tend to do my own hauling now.

Red Frog is pretty good about not dying.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn