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Hyperdunking nerf on sisi, to the battlements!

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Sam Moneymaker
Zdrang
#661 - 2015-10-24 21:43:25 UTC
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
What do oyu actually do Sam? I just went to check your KB and see if you were some assravaged miner since you seem to believe gankers are low IQ sociopaths.

Quote:
But all you do is kill POS modules in a Thorax. Theres no kills for defensive modules either, do you just fly around HS looking for POS with no fuel and kill the goodies? Doesn't that make you a low IQ sociopath who only picks on things that can't fight back?



Did you read somewhere there I have 2 mains? 1 doing only PVP? This is an alt killing POSes of people who didnt came back to game...I am doing it via a WarDec...ever heard? It costs ISKies...can you believe that?

And I killed only one miner as I remember sofar as I was wardec' his small alliance to kill modules (read Kinder Eggs) on an abandoned POS. ..That stupid saw me and call me an idiot and jumped in the station...had no intention to attack him. Ofc, just waited one day and kiiled it legit, via wardec in belt!

Second kill on this char was a noctis...aiming to get a fun fight with his main char, a CNR...I was pretty sure my little thorax wdnt resist but he got scarred and ran away abandoning his noctis pilot :)) Was again a wardec to a small corp...

As I stated in my post I dont attack for no reason...just for profit using wardecs? Where is anything similar to what I saying in my post? BTW, I pay more than a destroyer cost for a wardec!

Can you do better than that?
Sam Moneymaker
Zdrang
#662 - 2015-10-24 21:47:55 UTC
Quote:
Hiyora Akachi wrote:
What do oyu actually do Sam? I just went to check your KB and see if you were some assravaged miner since you seem to believe gankers are low IQ sociopaths.

But all you do is kill POS modules in a Thorax. Theres no kills for defensive modules either, do you just fly around HS looking for POS with no fuel and kill the goodies? Doesn't that make you a low IQ sociopath who only picks on things that can't fight back?



Is it so hard to read thoroughly my entire post and not pick only parts? Where the heck did I say that players ganking for profit are falling in those two categories? Quote here...learn to read FCS.
Philipa
Doomheim
#663 - 2015-10-24 22:38:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Philipa
Someone lock this thread already. This was a thread about a mechanic change on the test server, not implemented and not confirmed. And now it is a thread about who is better at EVE and why, or at life.

Also relevant:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49783678/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49774540/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49768342/
Mag's
Azn Empire
#664 - 2015-10-24 22:47:06 UTC
Philipa wrote:
And now it is a thread about who is better at EVE and why, or at life.
Well we were playing Hungry Hippos, but this thread changed that into C&P bingo.
I'm close to a full house, thanks to Sam Muddlemaker.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Kandu Harr
Doomheim
#665 - 2015-10-24 22:54:27 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Philipa wrote:
And now it is a thread about who is better at EVE and why, or at life.
Well we were playing Hungry Hippos, but this thread changed that into C&P bingo.
I'm close to a full house, thanks to Sam Muddlemaker.


I wonder if the ISD's have their own Bingo?
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#666 - 2015-10-25 02:20:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Aoife Fraoch
Sam Moneymaker wrote:
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Can I just say that this is making me miss Veers? At least he was understandable and did not come across as a high school student who just binged on Wikipedia articles about pop psychology.

Cogent arguments, they are a thing.



I am really really sorry you don't understand my posts. Ignore them. Is better for you. Tried thou to give them higher clarity through comparative real life examples ..didn't work in your case, sorry again :(

Don't try to using big words you don't know what they mean!

My first post started with " I think....." . Follow ups trying to explain why I think that way. If you kill an empty freighter just to see the tears of the owner I think that way about you. Why are you offended? I only explained why I consider you so. If you are how I think you are or not...is only you who can asses it! Try that mirror exercise I was speaking about.

Do you think I am offended of your pale shade of irony....not at all. Made my exercises with the mirror long time ago and know exactly what I am and what I am not!

Piece of advice...dont use Wiki...lots of mistakes there.. Try to find more reliable sources.


Cogent arguments....think you are not refering to my posts. I didn't give arguments ..only some examples...(and ohh, I failed in making myself clear to some of you)

I only stated : I THINK THAT IF "A" THEN "B". And then explained: I think "B" because of "C" and "D".

As in my previous reply....didn't say CCP should block "A". Not at all. Just noted what I think about people doing A for "fun" only. In addition I said "A" should be accompanied by "A-" and not by "a-"!

Hard huh?


Please re-read and edit your posts before publishing. suffixes like 'ing' have appropriate uses and you need to pay more attention to this. Also please use a dictionary, you appear to be unclear on what 'argument' means in this context. Ensure that you are using apostrophes. 'dont' has a " ' " between the "n" and the "t".

I am glad you understand that some wiki based sources are not reliable, perhaps you need to actually find an alternative already?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#667 - 2015-10-25 06:50:57 UTC
Edriahn wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
What tears? When I'm involved in a gank, I'm not the victim. It's quite amusing that you people seem to act like any opinion opposing your own must be tears. It's doubly funny that we're in a thread about them removing a mechanic that you are desperate for them to keep. Just HTFU and admit that you're resorting to "the tears the tears" because you have no good arguments for your point of view.

A thread full of people crying how unfair hyperdunking is. Arguments have been given pages and pages back. People that are not careful or just terrible at this game should their ships. It's natural order of things. In 0.0 the perpetrators, doing Darwin's work will just run off with the loot, laughing, in HS the act will get punished, but still, terrible players are not safe anywhere. Freighters moving officer torp launchers and invuls will get blown up, even if they're afk'ing on a gate in Yulai.

What you don't get is, while hyperdunking is a lot of fun, it's not essential part of the gameplay for most of the people that do it. So I'm really interested why you think anyone here is desperate for this mechanic to be kept?

I'd prefer that the mechanic be kept until pos's be removed from the game. Hyperdunking is most useful against pos modules, and is super easy to disrupt when used gaainst freighter's. I'm on my phone so please for give any spelling errors.

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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#668 - 2015-10-25 07:23:49 UTC
good change - should have been implemented a long time ago
Mag's
Azn Empire
#669 - 2015-10-25 07:24:33 UTC
Shocked Shit just got real. Lol

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Aoife Fraoch
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#670 - 2015-10-25 08:39:31 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
good change - should have been implemented a long time ago


And welcome back Veers.
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#671 - 2015-10-25 09:30:06 UTC
Sam Moneymaker wrote:
@Masao Kurata

Quote:
Practical exercise for you: go to Amarr with a character you use frequently, preferably your main, and set your home station there (empty clone highly recommended). Undock and shoot someone at random (you will die without accomplishing anything, don't worry about that). Repeat every 15 minutes (one of the penalties is that you basically cannot play EVE for the next 15 minutes, which is a harsh penalty in itself) until you are -5 or lower. Now play EVE normally on that character.


Give you another exercise. Train 1 mo a char to use a destroyer! Kill 10 freighters for fun until -10 sec status. Delete char. Train another one! Didn't get my point yet? Read again!

Have you taken Masao up on that exercise yet? You should because you'll learn a few things about punishment for criminals in HiSec.

Your challenge doesnt achieve anything. Recycling criminal characters is against the rules and will result in a ban.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#672 - 2015-10-25 12:31:46 UTC
It's a sad state of affairs when Veers is a welcome addition to a thread. Welcome back, sir!

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#673 - 2015-10-25 12:36:09 UTC
admiral root wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when Veers is a welcome addition to a thread. Welcome back, sir!

At least we can expect higher quality shiptoasting.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#674 - 2015-10-25 23:49:07 UTC
Hiasa Kite wrote:
admiral root wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when Veers is a welcome addition to a thread. Welcome back, sir!

At least we can expect higher quality shiptoasting.

I guess that means it sinks more? Welcome back Veers!

Founder of Violet Squadron, a small gang NPSI community! Mail me for more information.

BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!
GUmaq
#675 - 2015-10-26 01:02:57 UTC
admiral root wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when Veers is a welcome addition to a thread. Welcome back, sir!


I can stomach Veers far more then you pansy boy.Try posting with your main sometime you delusional coward.Before you tell me "calm down miner"Please understand i would rather pretend to like you for 3 hours then pve in any manner.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#676 - 2015-10-26 02:36:00 UTC
The Reddit thread about this was interesting. Buried now, but it looked at how this change will help CODE. and Miniluv at the expense of smaller gank entities.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Giaus Felix
Doomheim
#677 - 2015-10-26 11:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Giaus Felix
GUmaq wrote:
Try posting with your main
That's rich coming from a character that was purchased just over a month ago Roll

I came for the spaceships, I stayed for the tears.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#678 - 2015-10-26 15:36:21 UTC
GUmaq wrote:
admiral root wrote:
It's a sad state of affairs when Veers is a welcome addition to a thread. Welcome back, sir!


Try posting with your main sometime you delusional coward.


Calm down, miner, this is my main. Also, I'm pretty sure C&P standards and practices don't permit NPCs like you to talk to real people like that.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
Philipa
Doomheim
#679 - 2015-10-27 04:06:54 UTC
I thought that this weekend was dry, and being Monday it would be even dryer. But I was proven wrong.

Relevant materials - https://zkillboard.com/kill/49829088/ and https://youtu.be/0MnLe9wmwEk
Toxic Yaken
Slavers Union
Something Really Pretentious
#680 - 2015-10-27 05:54:16 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
The Reddit thread about this was interesting. Buried now, but it looked at how this change will help CODE. and Miniluv at the expense of smaller gank entities.


I'm impressed you were able to salvage that much before half the thread was downvoted into oblivion.

It's a good point, cause if hyper dunking goes I may as well train my alts into Catalysts/Brutix/Talos to gank freighters ez style.

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