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Eve Vegas, Rorqual:-)
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Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2015-10-25 04:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Xavindo Sirober
Not Sure if anyone mentioned it yet, or im in the wrong place again..

During fanfest it was briefly mentioned by our lord and savior CCP Fozziesov that the rorqual was getting some love in the winter because you guys were currently super busy on citadels,

Now thats fine with me but im probebly not the only one who now has the question.
If it is not going to be adressed in eve vegas. Is it going to be shoved to the next fanfest for a maybe? Or are there some dates set for this capital bad boy?


Not saying you guys gottta drop your stuff and fix it yesterday, hell even if its gonna take another yearShocked
Its just the ray of hope has dimmed for most carebear boosters and/or battle rorqual pilots out there.P








EDIT: According to Capitals Roundtable Q&A Question, it has been confirmed that the Dev's have not decided yet what to properly do with them , and the only changes they will see are the basic ones all capitals are getting, Rorqual is getting his restrictions removed aswell in the bay. (might see some Sparkles next summer?) They acknowledged once more it needs work and whatnot and it'll happen sometime in the future, as they said before a couple of timesBear
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2 - 2015-10-25 06:20:44 UTC
My thoughts.

If you started a new character today and focus trained it for Rorqual, it would be ready about the same time the first iteration on the new ship balance and functions was ready. About a year and a half.

After two and a half years you'll have your perfect pilot at about the same time the Rorq is done its final balance pass.

In short - don't hold your breath.

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Pah Triac
Triac Family Logistic Holdings
#3 - 2015-10-25 07:21:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pah Triac
i think he is not talking about the amount of time u need for training.
reather the abilities we yarn for...
a ship we can use on grid, what it is made for & where it should do its thing

(my 2 cents) The IC should have a rotation of 1 minute & Mining bonus only to ships on grid to compensate
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2015-10-25 08:41:03 UTC
Any Battle Rorq pilot should be mere weeks or maybe a couple of months off Carriers. In the time people have been complaining they could be amazing carrier pilots.

Not to say I don't feel for Rorq pilots, but really..... options, use them.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-10-25 09:31:18 UTC
If you had EYES you could clearly SEE that um....well...nevermind.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2015-10-25 22:09:09 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
If you had EYES you could clearly SEE that um....well...nevermind.



thanks for being constructive there!Roll

Over the years the scraps of information i atleast heard/noticed is that the plan originally is that the Rorqual is going to be a ON grid booster, the hows and everything were very vague as there isn't much work progressed in it as of last info.

maybe some of the dev's still at home know a little more Big smile
Jenshae Chiroptera
#7 - 2015-10-25 22:23:49 UTC
This thread indicates some of the reasons why Rorquals are not on grid boosters and a few possible solutions.

The new citadels are going to have no POS shield. If there is no solution to that for Rorquals, I can see them being scrapped and forgotten entirely.

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Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-10-25 22:35:24 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
This thread indicates some of the reasons why Rorquals are not on grid boosters and a few possible solutions.

The new citadels are going to have no POS shield. If there is no solution to that for Rorquals, I can see them being scrapped and forgotten entirely.



I didn't say they currently are, i said the dev's planned to make them on grid boosters actively defending and such in the belts, which was their first thoughts on that, since it didn't go that way, they wanted to revamp the rorqual in a way it would be used on grid.

If you are gonna talk about the citadels, FYI the citadels have tethers that generally makes everyone with docking rights friendly and tethered when close enough to the citadel, making them practical to the immunity a POS gives, the real question aswell if rorquals do not get changed.
weapon timers do not get the immunity tether, and they are going to give Combat boosters with modules active weapon Timers, will the rorqual receive a weapons timer for running mining boosts?, or is it limited to combat boosts only?.Idea
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2015-10-25 22:40:45 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
This thread indicates some of the reasons why Rorquals are not on grid boosters and a few possible solutions.

The new citadels are going to have no POS shield. If there is no solution to that for Rorquals, I can see them being scrapped and forgotten entirely.

Ships within range and with rights, will be automatically tethered and immune from aggression.

At Vegas in the presentation on Citadels, CCP Nullarbor specifically mentioned links as one of the things they are working on to figure out a solution for, so I don't think the lack of a POS shield will be an issue for mining links. Well, hope not anyway. Nullarbor seems like a pretty switched on guy, so I'm confident the end result will work ok.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2015-10-25 22:48:08 UTC
It needs to get a mining laser that is similar to the sickle doomsday and can just swoop over an asteroid belt in a couple of minutes Bear

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Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2015-10-25 22:52:37 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
It needs to get a mining laser that is similar to the sickle doomsday and can just swoop over an asteroid belt in a couple of minutes Bear



Has actually been asked in eve vegas as a feature for the rorqual funny enoughBig smile


On that part we could open a whole new discussion of Capital strip miners and munching roids when bumping, which is maybe something the Mining platform would do in the next year or 2, who knows.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#12 - 2015-10-26 00:32:58 UTC
Give the Rorq a new model. to look more like a mining ship.

Make Industrial Mode a giant space vacuum cleaner. There's already word on an AOE ship push, so why not an AOE rock pull?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2015-10-26 03:30:11 UTC
Rorqual was mentioned at EVE Vegas, according to /r/Eve

"Someone asked about it during Q&A, "we're not ready to talk about that yet" was basically the answer"

Q: Can Rorqual have a sickle class mining laser?
A: < laughter >. No.

There was also a comment in regards to fleet hangars that I can't find at the moment.
Junot Nevone
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#14 - 2015-10-26 03:32:24 UTC
Any news would be great. Its been way too long a wait already
Xavindo Sirober
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2015-10-26 03:37:03 UTC
Changed it on my first post after i discovered the capital roundtable which basicly answered the question i had, well sort of.

basicly posted what they said and that's what it'll beStraight
Bill Lane
Strategic Insanity
FUBAR.
#16 - 2015-10-26 19:01:52 UTC
So just had an idea, though admittedly not yet fully formed.

On the thought of the sickle class mining laser....instead of an actual mining laser, make this a rorqual-specific module that breaks up the asteroids in anoms that normally are not mineable. For example, I think the medium asteroid cluster has the large coral-looking structures. The rorqual could go in and break this up into mineable chunks or something else. That's where my creativity dried up.

Figure you guys seem to be more creative, so what would you think about that and what would you have those asteroids break into?

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XODIOS Katelo
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-10-26 20:04:48 UTC
The Rorqr is getting a doomsday that stripmines entire belts instantly, althout it only applys at the end of the 5min cycle.

It's also getting a 300% per level Drone damage buff and an extra 20,000,000 shield HP.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#18 - 2015-10-26 21:56:43 UTC
Rorq can have the mining gang boost thing, that's fine

But the special deal of the Rorqual should be that it can ninja moon mine. You jump a rorq in to a moon and run the seige cycle. The moon miner stops immediately for 24h. After 10 mins, the Rorq trololols away with a day's worth of moon minerals in it's ore hangar.

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#19 - 2015-10-26 23:13:44 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Rorq can have the mining gang boost thing, that's fine

But the special deal of the Rorqual should be that it can ninja moon mine. You jump a rorq in to a moon and run the seige cycle. The moon miner stops immediately for 24h. After 10 mins, the Rorq trololols away with a day's worth of moon minerals in it's ore hangar.

As much as I love that idea, nobody will run moon mining POSes any more. They'll run a Rorq for all the moons in a constellation.
Pah Triac
Triac Family Logistic Holdings
#20 - 2015-10-28 20:15:18 UTC
fantasy going haywire here tho IMHO the biggest mining (support) vessel that cant actualy mine (except for mining drones) henceforth beeing NOT ongrid in the belt, saying that if you would give it a tru reason to be in the belt it will be there.
1st reason: it cant actualy mine Give it the ability to fit 4 Harvesters with a 175% mining amount bonus When in deployed mode
wich will be around 200% with mining bonus
2nd reason: its too dangerous to be in deployed mode on grid in null sec. give a 1 minute cycle on the Industrial Core.

Then Thomas will be a really usefull engine for the other engines will tell you so
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