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Rel'k Bloodlor
Federation Front Line Report
Federation Front Line
#21 - 2012-01-06 06:44:54 UTC
Im not shure how I feel about this, I believe they "most large groups" buy default will not sacrifice Jita in exchange for RP, harder missions, and slightly harder to turn-around LP items. I don't fear getting my ass kicked. I fear the "Baby Huey" effect messing up my Kool-Aid™

I wanted to paint my space ship red, but I couldn't find enough goats. 
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#22 - 2012-01-06 06:48:21 UTC
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. ~ 0.0 Megablocs

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
King Rothgar
Deadly Solutions
#23 - 2012-01-06 08:12:33 UTC
I expect no real change. The only interesting part will be that CVA will join the amarr. It's interesting because they have no less than half the amarr militia set to KoS for "piracy." Should be interesting to see if they will finally play nice with their alleged allies rather than trying to gank them at every possible opportunity. Either way, I welcome any new targets. Things have been pretty slow the past month.

[u]Fireworks and snowballs are great, but what I really want is a corpse launcher.[/u]
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#24 - 2012-01-06 09:07:26 UTC
I wonder if on the Minmatar side there will be a push to join forces in an Alliance and if so, I can't wait for all of the Dramallama that will inevitably result. \o/

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-01-06 10:28:31 UTC
im bringing my minmatar rp alliance in, ****'s gonna 0wn
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#26 - 2012-01-06 11:39:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
I suspect this will have more of an affect of Militia corps forming alliances than really bringing in large numbers of outside groups.If people want to blob us with 100 man gangs they can do so already, so having them in or out of FW really makes little difference IMO. We will likely see a lot more high sec groups looking for week end PVP though..

I just wonder what is the intention of CCP with this. Is it just a "hey we have to do something for FW cause the kids are crying and alliances in FW was a big topic 5 years ago..or is there some sort of plan to go along with this for future updates?

ie.. CCP should really give us some sort of idea what their end game is with this, as I hope it's just not a "hey lets welp it" because tossing more people into a broken thing, will fix it.
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2012-01-06 12:04:29 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
I suspect this will have more of an affect of Militia corps forming alliances than really bringing in large numbers of outside groups.If people want to blob us with 100 man gangs they can do so already, so having them in or out of FW really makes little difference IMO.


This is what I suspect more than anything. Also, with alliances in fw, active corps can finally get into the alliance tourny. Not the best fix ever, but i think things are moving in the right direction

I has all the eve inactivity
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
#28 - 2012-01-06 12:39:51 UTC
Karl Planck wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
I suspect this will have more of an affect of Militia corps forming alliances than really bringing in large numbers of outside groups.If people want to blob us with 100 man gangs they can do so already, so having them in or out of FW really makes little difference IMO.


This is what I suspect more than anything. Also, with alliances in fw, active corps can finally get into the alliance tourny. Not the best fix ever, but i think things are moving in the right direction

Just wait, bet the null-monkeys will get CCP to make holding sov in X amount of systems a requirement for AT eligibility Twisted
Meditril
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#29 - 2012-01-06 15:16:42 UTC
No alliances in FW. Alliances in FW will just encourage even more blobbing.
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#30 - 2012-01-06 17:10:17 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
The RR fix is definitely welcome. I wonder if this will extend to bubble mechanics for those who have ventured into null.

I'm a bit skeptical about the benefits of allowing alliances into FW, particularly the larger alliances and the impact that it may have on small fleet/skirmish combat. Additionally, will there be sufficient incentive for these alliances to fight in low sec rather than occasional roams from systems that they hold sov?


Thing is, those alliances already make occasional roams in lowsec... and since a lot of us are blinky, currently they can shoot us but we can't shoot back as a fleet as easily.

If they join a militia and come into lowsec well... Now we can begin engaging them at will. I only see upsides (easier to engage alliances that already roam lowsec) . (Is there something I've missed?)


Right. But with more alliances joining, it will only result in more blobbing. Many of the smaller corps will become less relevant as will small gang pvp which is the draw to FW for many folks.

FW will become nullsec blobfest which is what we don't want.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Saito Soji
Port Vega IV
#31 - 2012-01-06 17:15:27 UTC
Nooooooo!

*starts cursing in multiple languages*

It will kill the solo/small fleet warfare most of us enjoy so much. CCP needs to fix the occupancy mechanics first, then they can figure out ways to attract more players.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#32 - 2012-01-06 18:38:17 UTC
Karl Planck wrote:
Mutnin wrote:
I suspect this will have more of an affect of Militia corps forming alliances than really bringing in large numbers of outside groups.If people want to blob us with 100 man gangs they can do so already, so having them in or out of FW really makes little difference IMO.


This is what I suspect more than anything. Also, with alliances in fw, active corps can finally get into the alliance tourny. Not the best fix ever, but i think things are moving in the right direction


Pretty much how I see this as well.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#33 - 2012-01-06 20:14:54 UTC
BTW, if this results in even more high sec carebears joining Caldari and flying their faction fit PVE ships around mission hubs then I'm going back to Minmatar and moving to Caldari high sec.

Sorry but a man can only take soo much.. Pirate
M'nu
Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
#34 - 2012-01-06 23:51:41 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
I wonder if on the Minmatar side there will be a push to join forces in an Alliance and if so, I can't wait for all of the Dramallama that will inevitably result. \o/



Call it Autocannons Alliance. to keep with the drug theme
Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#35 - 2012-01-07 00:32:08 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
I expect no real change. The only interesting part will be that CVA will join the amarr.


You must be on pills.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113
Vixisti
#36 - 2012-01-07 00:37:55 UTC
The more people are in FW the better, I don't care whether they're Alliances, corps, individuals or carebears. The more targets the better.

If big blobs come back to FW it means that hit and run guerilla tactics will be on the order of the day just like it used to be in the heyday of Caldari militia.

Bring it on.

[u]Failure Cascade Augmentation Squad[/u]
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#37 - 2012-01-07 10:39:47 UTC
Initially I was against this but as Vix says the more to shoot the better.
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#38 - 2012-01-07 20:57:14 UTC
how bout militia's joining alliances.

seuriosly this game needs to stop jerking its self off over 'alliance warfare'

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro
Londor Rogers
Public Menace
#39 - 2012-01-08 02:52:47 UTC
HMM if big null-sec alliances joined FW would that not basicly mean that all members of that militia would be blue to that alliance in there null space as well in regular FW space. This could quite possibly open null-sec to individuals and small groups. I don't see the likely hood of the sov alliances joining FW. It would be a pretty big security liability with anyone being able to join general militia and thus have access to null sov space. Yay fo spies I guess
Commander Lenix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-01-08 04:37:28 UTC
I think this will be 60% awesome.

This will finally give corps within the same militia the ability to "Officially" join together. This will add the ability to govern themselves, enforce standards, fix the stupid repping bug, help with wardecs and actually provide some sort of spy control. And this will open the door for more targets for all 4 militias.

The 40% problem I see happening is there will be 30 alliances on the Squid side and we are back to where we started, people broken into different groups arguing/war-decing each other and nothing positive happening within the Squids.