Player Features and Ideas Discussion

As most players who play EVE noticed theres a decline in players and honestly I dont want to see 15-20 k players on the launcher next summer or less

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
(note it says EVE + Dust)
lately when ever I turned on launcher theres 20k-30k players online most ppl have at LEAST 1 alt logged in doing bugger all making it something between 10-20 k actual players.

So I was kidna wondering if it wouldnt be better to get EVE as a free to play game BUT with a catch.
If you dont plex you wouldnt be able to fly anything above battlecruiser size, use cynos and other very specialized modules (links), use t2 t3 ships and so on.

Also any training for skill that requires plex would imidietly stop

That way a lot of ppl could get draged back to game who couldnt affort to play it or didnt have the patience for those pesky incursions.

With this they would have acces to tools for PVP and PVE that isnt the best but neither the worst.

Any thoughts?

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Edit: Obviously rules for free accounts would be like for curent trial account not allowing you to launch another client as long as theres trial (free account running)

curent trial accounts wount allow you to launch a second account that would still aply

well as I mentioned i would restrict training for skills that you dont have permissions for and also you couldnt aply them thus you couldnt jump to BS as you would not have permission to.

If you have any other restrictions on your mind then go ahead. I feel like these would be enough.

That's reasonable, but I still see ways to abuse it

What I think CCP should try is to make it possible somehow someway for a Pilot to use all three characters from one account in the environment from one log in session.

If you have three monitors then you would be able to assign each Pilot to a monitor. CCP would have to write detection definitions that would be accessible through the in game Esc Window.

I think that if the multiple account holders who have like 7 different accounts were able to deploy their pilots like this they would have 21 fieldable accounts instead of just seven.

The cost of using such a system would change the rate of pay if it is able to work. Instead of paying a subscription fee for the three Pilots you would have to pay a Clone Vat fee of $5.00 per Pilot you had on a single account if you wanted to activate them all at one.

So for a Pilot that has two accounts and now has six Pilots that he or she can put onto the field at once they are paying $30.00 a month for six playable Pilots from two accounts instead of paying $90.00 a month for the same number of single accounts. Is CCP losing money on this deal? It would look like they are, but being able to save money on account subs the additional $60 a month could go into outfitting the six accounts buy purchasing close to four Plex totaling 2.8 billion ISK. Outfitting the six accounts in this manner increases their playability and opens up the frontier of New Eden to the pilot a lot faster than ever before. So in the end CCP is really not losing any money and the Pilot is getting one hell of deal that will keep the pilot around for years to come.

I don't get the fascination with free to play. It is literally hard drugs for a game - a few months of living large, and then a terrible, horrible crash. The Danger Game should be about MMOs, and the black circle should basically be picking up pay to win mechanics as you go along.

Considering how sov is actually fought and won these days, no again. Free ratting accounts and miners...plex just went up even more.

Even assuming that such things are not easily circumvented, it makes for a worse game.

I could sub, and pay 15$ a month, or I could buy a Plex a Month (1.2b+), or I could play absolutely free, and just rat in a Gila, etc. Sov holders would get absolutely free accounts to play the PvE sov game we have, when there is zero cost at all to being in space. That's bad. It will be optimized and weaponized by the powers that be.

If you want to hook newer players, and make the game worth the sub fee for them, fix NPC null and lowsec so they have a place to grow, learn, and play. FozzieSov is basically designed such that new players are assets to be harvested for labor, not actual players looking for an engaging experience.

You can play EVE for free but you're limited to cruiser size and below, basic/core skills, and 21 days play time.

I think the limits are in the right place, perhaps you could argue for more time.

I'm not sure how eve could go free to play...
It's a totally different type of game play and market system..

But if they can do what GW2 is doing I think it would take off...
Free to play and no restrictions and they hold a high player base...
I'm just not sure how ccp can incorporate any kind of market system to make a steady profit...
To be honest restrictions turn people off..
Like in swtor... I prefer not to play at all then deal with their stupid restrictions..

Anyways I agree.. ccp needs to do something...

Personally... I think it's the players that's hurting this game and driving off new players and some bets feed up with the crap..
High sec ganking is a big problem..
Corps like code...
Major power blocks in the game like goons ganking freighters and miners in hi sec to manipulate the market...
Yeah it's a sand box.. nothing is truly safe.. blah blah blah... it all sounds good until the game shuts down due to lack of interest..
Hi sec is a hub.. a starting area... a place for non pvprs.. traders and industrialist..
But it's plagued with hi sec ganking.. war Dec abuse...scammers...
A crap insurance system.. you insure a hac which costs you like 200mil and platinum insurance Pays like 11 mil lol.. what a joke..
You get your shiny new freighter suicide ganked and you're screwed..
And people are supposed to be ok with that.. that's eve.. suck it up right..
Like I said it's the players that's hurting this game.. and ccps complacency ....
Then we have training times...
The lower skills your can train in under a month which will get you in basic ships... but like hac 5.. lvl 4 might take like a week... lvl 5 .. 40+ days.. seriously..wtf ..
That's a huge jump... and waste of time in my opinion..
It's a combination of these things that's holding eve back...

Of that entire rant, this is the only line even close to correct.