Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Most often I'm buying PLEX when I get a windfall of cash and saving it until I don't have the cash to pay the subs on all my accounts, or when I do something really stupid and need an injection of ISK. This suggestion would eliminate my ability to play the game entirely at times.

At no point are you entitled to play the game for free. If the price of PLEX is too high for you to pay it, then either pay your subs with a card, or figure out how to make more ISK.

the question here is, why should someone elses investment be destroyed to benefit you? plex is gold not a loaf of bread

Well, you mean ice and minerals in hangars? I understand your sarcasm but guesss what? it is not 100 % stupid idea after all... The difference with PLEX is that ice or mineral prices does not affect amount of players (so = content in our sandbox). And same is with loyality store items.

But NPC corp taxes increase with time spent in it will surely make sandbox more interesting. Just make it so, that it is not based on join date but on total time being in this corp. Otherwise it will be enough to make your own little corp for a minute and than go back to NPC safe.

its a completely valid game option for him if he can disappear for 6+ months because the plex value fluctuates massively over that period of time and his investment has proved to be a good one. the game also should not be based on people who want things for cheap so they can play for free.

I have a better question, why do people think the plex market is getting manipulated? Think about it, something like 1,000 plex changes hands in Jita every day. That's more than one trillion isk. I suppose if the largest groups banded together they could stir the pot for a few days, but eventually the sheer torrent of supply and demand would equalize it and make it unprofitable. Plex is created by players, and only consumed by players. You can't cut off the supply, or refuse to use it. It's mostly a free market. The price is set mostly by supply and demand, and if you want to change the price, you have to change one of those. Changing the supply would involve lowering the cost to get plex, killing CCP's revenue. Changing the demand would be lowering the amount of plex consumed, also hurting CCP's income, or simply when plex gets to a point high enough where supply and demand stabilize.
The people that stockpile large stores of plex are, as I understand it, speculating that the price will go up, i.e. that demand is more than supply. Except for the recent dip, this idea has been mostly true. When the demand starts to lessen from the increased cost, the price will stop going up.

You shouldn't just change a free market because you believe that a price is too high. That's the price set by the free market, where supply=demand. If you purposefully change it, then its no longer a free market.

Just get rid of the character bazaar and the full plex issue doesn't exist. Get rid of the Aurum crap and that issue is also solved. (PRO HINT: character bazaar and aurum store both have nothing to do with game play - not necessar)

No I can't. The buying and selling of eve characters is a RL intrusion into the new eden alternate reality. It's a RL tranasaction using game currency. Character ownership is a RL thing, not a game thing. If my character could use it's vast quantities of isk to purchase control of your character in game and all you could do is pay the subscription and watch what my character does with your character, then it would be game play.

https://xkcd.com/849/

CCP flat out dictating PLEX price would also solve it. (15 USD = 1 PLEX = 1 bil isk as an example). A guy that is RL cash heavey and in game isk light could purchase the PLEX from npc (CCP via secure website... blah blah blah). PLEX is created and can be purchased in game for isk. External secure website creates the PLEX in game from real currency. That PLEX is now on sale in game for isk. PLEX can not be sold by players (buying plex brings up the option to extend game time OR dual train) and goes right into your characters bucket at purchase time.


I'm not against plex - I think it provides a service both to the folks that want to give CCP spare cash for some isk AND for folks that want to buy game time with their isk. As long as the game time is purchased w/ real money to create it, then it's a wash.

The issue I have is that folks with large piles of isk profitting from the above parties. Just make is a zero gain transaction. I see no reason that CCP has to give players a profit mechanism for these transactions. Game time (which is what a plex represents) is a real world thing. Player characters being able to profit from it is kind of wierd anyway.

How do plex speculators remove content? As I stated earlier, they're betting that the price will go up, they're not manipulating it upwards. The large demand and relatively low supply is what's driving it upwards, when people start getting more bang for their buck more will start buying it with real life cash, or when it starts to become uneconomical to consume them then the demand will start to drop off.

What content is removed? Blobs still blob, bears still bear, pirates still go yarrrr, wormholers gonna wormhole, etc. Or did I miss a patch note where access to say incursions will now require a plex?

Only plex limited event I know of is AT and thats for the buy in. Somehow I don't see many emo raging because they can't make the buy in for AT.


PLex is a privilege not a right. I find the content of the game to be enjoyable regardless if I plex or not. As I play the game as if it were, well, a game. Not a job.