EVE General Discussion

Is anyone else bothered by how second-hand ships and equipment are just as good as those that just have been manufactured? I was thinking of buying a freighter, and analysed the cost of holding one. Then I realised that there was no long-term cost, as ships and modules don't degrade over time. When I was finished with the freighter, I could simply resell it at full value in the future.

It doesn't work like that in the real world. Yeah I know Eve is a game, but this seems very immersion-breaking. Should ships / modules degrade over time? Or perhaps introduce a temporary "meta" level for brand new ships and equipment that provide a slight buff until they're repackaged / unfitted? It would give industrialists a reason to manufacture new goods.

Because large tables are expensive.

Good idea, but I don't want the sub to double in price to fund the new servers that would be needed to handle this much data.

Trust me,
I'm a programmer

Same reason it's OK to date a chick who's not a virgin.

Scip, you forgot about upkeep costs. It should cost me isk to hire the crew and pay for upkeep, even storage space is expensive IRL. I've often thought that its strange it doesn't cost me anything to have stuff sitting around ready to go all over new eden. Maintenance costs money.

I think all this sort of stuff comes down to practical, non lore reasons. As mentioned tracking decay on each ship would be a massive load on the servers. Also it'd suck to have a break from the game and find out all your stuff is now 20% worse simply because it's aged, or that you have this massive bill to pay for upkeep before you can use the stuff.

The idea has merit, and I'm sure CCP thought of it, but I just don't think it's practical.

Damn, as someone who's job it is to maintain equipment IRL I'd love to get my hands on some of that minmatar duct tape...

it's not the duct-tape it's the fedos http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/fedo/

there is a reason I've always said gallente/minmatar space is stinky!

Dear OP:

Opportunity cost

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Economics

First of all, Science Fiction. New Eden is a place where you can virtually build ships with 3D Replicators with nothing but a Blueprint and a truckload of raw minerals. And we can use nanomachines, son. Those little buggers can repair anything!

And there's a good reason why you have to repackage ships and modules before you can sell them. It is to make sure the individual components of a ship are maintained and in top condition for reasseambly!

ISK is a funny currency you see, with it's value being several magnitudes above what the common folk uses as currency planetside. A single ISK can pay a frigate crew for an entire month, as such, costs for minor ship maintenance and crew are so nominal that we can ignore them mechanic wise. Not to ention the average ship's life expectancy is measured in hours. No ship lives long enough to become a rackety bucket of flying scrap (unless you are flying Minmatar, then it becomes a feature).

When we do have to preform major repairs on our ships and modules, is because they are so bent up you have to replace entire segments of the thing entirely.

I'm a bit puzzled about the 'not feasible' statement myself. Back in 2003, I used to play a game where almost every single item degraded on use. So it was definitely feasible with 2003 tech, even if there were issues when large amounts of players gathered. Still, this is 2015, you'd expect progress...

Incidentally: this made for a WAY more interesting economy, since favorite high value items could not be preserved forever, even with repairs.