Crime & Punishment

- TFTFY

Do you also want me to invite you to fleet when I gank?

Which pretty much sums up all of the gankers arguments.

Its funny how hypocritical you guys are, "but we do it for content", and then content suggestions are made, and you guys yell "not fair!"

*eye roll*

If you guys want to argue standards, then you should at least apply those standards to yourselves.

HTFU this is EVE, not HKO. Adapt or die.


Just to inform you I am not here to whine, I am here to discuss and teach people a lesson. I do it for content and profit. And I will adapt to changes that CCP make.

What I don't find a good sign for EVE's community is the victory cheer from bears/AG because instead of adapting, they are given a fix. Why is that bad, because next time they will also want a fix and won't adapt, and next time, and next time and then the high-sec population of eve will be the humans from WALL-E.
If those people are the future of EVE there is no future for eve, because why would they leave their automated feeding ground high-sec to go to low/null? They won't.

High-sec must provide justice(CONCORD), but no safety, and much lower rewards so it forces people to adapt, move and explore other parts of the game for riches.
If people don't know how to survive in those other parts, they should seek information and advice. Believe me it will be given to them. People love tears, but they adore recognition.

If people continue to not leave high-sec and stagnate in the false safety zone, the more null/low will come to them seeking targets, as they are none(less) and more the gap between the two will widen.

I see that you have a big problem with goons there, and you are not alone. Many people do.
So why are you all not grouping to do something about it?
- Because that is effort you wish to not give, and have CCP fix it for you.

Let me give you some insight on 0.0 entities operations, which if you do some research will figure out.

Just like high-sec, null-sec also wants security, since there is no CONCORD they achieve it by grouping together.
Just like in high-sec, there are few people in null-sec who drive content and lead masses, the rest follow.
Just like in high-sec, if you get aggressively targeted, you change corp/location and move on. THE SAME WAY in 0.0 if an entity is continuously under attack weaker elements of it will flee for greener pastures, reducing the "big blue donut" you fight.
Just like David and Goliath, smaller entities have advantages when attacking larger entities - mobility, cost of assets, cost of time, ratio of fun.

So instead of using a thread, which is about someone very different from goons, to express your feelings towards them, form an alliance and go take what you want.

I mentioned Goons, PL and NCDOT. not just Goons, but Goons are the ones doing this in hisec, mainly because they are so bored in fortress Deklin, poor lambs

Gathering to go after the Goons, lol your having me on, the best way to deal with the Goons is to not fight them, their numbers are down massively already, even PL and NCDOT has started picking at their borders and those low sec entities are also having a go at the feeder alliances, the Goons hurt so much in Pure Blind that they begged for an Interceptor nerf, funny that, they did not adapt or died they cried to CCP to nerf them and they did...

You list of just like, leading into a comment about smaller entities having advantages in attacking bigger entities except that they don't, they mostly choose not to fight them...

But you have mostly complained about goons. And now you are saying they are week and using the same strategies as you to "win". I am confused.

Are you saying goons are to stronk, to week, or are you a goon?

If they should not complain to CCP to get x, y or z fixed, what gives you the right?

Your ignorance about game mechanics, politics and EVE in general is kinda disturbing, but mostly hilarious.

Here is an expiring vid for you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2oxt7Nrxo

You might not like Goons or PL, but back in the days they(or We), were small entities, one flying small gangs with gaddons and quick ships, the other full of newbies in rifters and cruisers. What made them what they are today is picking up a fight with the big guy. BoB, IT, NC, Atlas, -A-, countless more. They fought hard and got stomped more than once, but took it as a lesson and came out stronger each time. Supercaps are just a means to an end and completely different discussion. Both PL and Goons have picked on alliances with more caps and supercaps and won. You might hate them now, but if you research the game's history a bit more, you'll se it wasn't anything else but a natural selection.



So basically what you want is for the game to adapt to your specific needs? I want to kill titans with rifters too, but it won't happen.

You keep talking about what the AG wants, are your their official spokesman or something? So you don't want to make money, you don't want to get kills, you don't want to pod 100m pods(these are the cheap ones - https://zkillboard.com/kill/49665174/ ), what do you want? To chill in highsec, afk, safe from everything?

Experience is what matters and you won't get any on the forums. You want to change something - go out there, organize some friends and have fun. You wanna do industry, sales, politics, fight, it's your choice. But don't hate on the people that have vastly more experience than you for finding ways have fun at the expense of less experienced or just careless players. remember that these same bad guys were the small ones a few years back.

You don't like hyperdunking? Organize some people and start doing sh*t. We literally gave you tactics that have been proven to work countless times, but you dismiss them, instead of putting some effort and trying.
You don't like goons? Take some friends and start sh*tting on their parade. Organize alliances to help you. There is no infallible entity.
Phoenix has fallen.
ASCN has fallen.
MC has fallen.
BOB has fallen.
Tri. has fallen.
IT has fallen.
NC has fallen.
PL has fallen.
Goons have fallen.
Atlas has fallen.
-A- has fallen.

None of them has fallen due to game mechanics or people exploiting anything. They've fallen because players organized and
destroyed them. Want to change something? Take action.

I too could list all the entities in Eve and try to make myself look intelligent, pah, I could start from BOB and tell you why they failed, but what a complete waste of space that is.

Shall we mention Raiden, the alliance with a huge number of Titans which were using blap Titans, the Goons cried so hard for a nerf and got one it was sickening, I could go on you know. Oh but that was natural selection, yeah right it was a nerf of their main strength, who would have thought that...

Oh yeah killing Miniluv and CODE alts of Goons will cause the Goons to fall, can't see how you get to that. Can't even see why that list of null sec alliances are even relevant to hisec, apart from when they decide to spend their time and ISK in blowing things up there. Out of all those people you listed, the only ones that impact hisec are the Goons and that is because Grrr hisec.

Pods, 100m pod thats chicken poo, most Miniluv and CODE pods have none or specific implants, get out of here that's pathetic.

I thought of similar few pages ago, and probably others before me...

You seem to remember a different history than most. The crying about nerfing titans really picked up after 28 titans DDed a carrier in Y-2 after finishing off BoB. Raiden was just BoB mk4 or whatever.

You started crying about Goons and CODE ruining your high-sec unicorn kingdom and Goons, PL and NCDOT making 0.0 boring. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous these claims are, don't hate the messenger.