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Andy Landen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-06 01:29:07 UTC
1) View all markets in all regions at once or use existing filters.

2) Access market through Eve Gate.

3) Allow accounts to go negative through margin trading and allow buy orders to fill when operating on the margin with insufficient ISK in the wallet. Require assets to be put up as collateral when buy orders, contracts, etc, exceed the ISK in the account, just like any brokerage would do. ... Or remove margin trading altogether.

"We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein 
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#2 - 2012-01-06 02:28:10 UTC
Andy Landen wrote:
1) View all markets in all regions at once or use existing filters.

2) Access market through Eve Gate.

3) Allow accounts to go negative through margin trading and allow buy orders to fill when operating on the margin with insufficient ISK in the wallet. Require assets to be put up as collateral when buy orders, contracts, etc, exceed the ISK in the account, just like any brokerage would do. ... Or remove margin trading altogether.

1) Not good. Market is laggy enough as it is, every region (there are a lot of them) would make the hamsters cry.

2) Would require EVE gate to check the market information regularly, making it and the market run slower as well as increasing security risks greatly.

3) Not sure what to make of this. My knowledge of the skill is limited. Might be a good idea, will wait for those who know it to state their opinions.
Goose99
#3 - 2012-01-06 03:51:24 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Andy Landen wrote:
1) View all markets in all regions at once or use existing filters.

2) Access market through Eve Gate.

3) Allow accounts to go negative through margin trading and allow buy orders to fill when operating on the margin with insufficient ISK in the wallet. Require assets to be put up as collateral when buy orders, contracts, etc, exceed the ISK in the account, just like any brokerage would do. ... Or remove margin trading altogether.

1) Not good. Market is laggy enough as it is, every region (there are a lot of them) would make the hamsters cry.

2) Would require EVE gate to check the market information regularly, making it and the market run slower as well as increasing security risks greatly.

3) Not sure what to make of this. My knowledge of the skill is limited. Might be a good idea, will wait for those who know it to state their opinions.


Supported on all counts, +1

1) Wrong assumptions. Don't assume. Market works on separate node, same as chat. More importantly, market listing of one item in Forge region contain more entries than entire markets of some of the lesser populated regions put together. The "last straw that breaks the camel's back" is only valid as a concept, it doesn't happen often in practice.

2) Again, wrong assumption. You didn't think things through. Checking market through Eve Gate produces no more load to Eve than doing so in game, just extra load to Eve Gate. If multiple people checks the same market, it may produce less. This is like saying 3rd party market aggregators sites like Eve Central would break the market.

3) Margin trading should just be removed. Don't got the cash? Don't trade.