EVE General Discussion

There's only ONE way to solve this issue

If you buy plex off the market it becomes untradeable, if for some reason you need to resell the plex back on market you can pay 10% isk value of the plex to reactivate and sell it for a loss at which point it will become untradeable for the new owner

There was a similar issue with another game called runescape.

this character lock + reactivation fee fixed the plex(bonds) of that game

I can't wait to see the tears when the pcu drops even further cause of plex prices.

Well, you could throttle isk faucets or cut the £/$ price on the website.

Don't think the first would help much seeing if someone quits now because they can't make a PLEX, they'd be unlikely to make a PLEX at half the price using PVE that takes twice as long or is twice as hard. Which leaves...convincing CCP to cut their income....

Are you trying to act like a ****** or is that the way you normaly is?

You do realise that even tho those players play for "free" as you call it, CCP still gets the money for their accounts, so please come back when you have even the sightest idea of what your talking about.

+1
This is actually an interesting idea. I'd be so fun to see what happens to those 250.000 PLEXes stockpiled somewhere if this gets implemented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalfe%27s_law

Even if some players play for "free", they overall add more value to the game.

The counter argument is that those "customers" drove up the demand for plex less than the current market, which in theory means demand is up. At the same time, trade volume is down, but trade volume may not represent plex consumption.

The counter-counter argument is this may reduce long-term game play value more than the short term gained revenue from selling more plex.

Time will tell.

Break it down. It's a matter of math, not philosophy. MMOs are engines for inflation in their make-believe economies. None are immune. PLEX (as with the Nyx model for $1800) is priced using highly-inflated currency - ISK. You're bridging two currencies with part of this transaction process - ISK and real world currency. The two are not matched in inflation rate. People do tend to take seriously the value of real world money in comparison to in-game money, oddly enough.

MMOs have inflation built into them as they add in-game currency as rewards for game activity. They all do. This is the same as printing money with no limits, or parameters as a guide. The more money in circulation, the less that money is worth. To get back what they've put into something, sellers will adjust prices to match the actual value of currency, not the face value in print there with that historical figure's portrait, and cute little confidence building slogan.

We, of course, want the money to be worth what is printed on it. If it says "10 ISK" we want it to buy what 10 ISK has always bought since time immemorial. HOWEVER, this cannot be, without game management going into the database and altering values across the board, as well as all instances where said values are mentioned. Which do you want, a game that works, or a market simulator that's as accurate as a Swiss watch? CCP can't hire staff for both, neither can Donald Trump.

PLEX prices are set by players against the backdrop of this greater economy. Their pricing has a lot to do with demonstrated player behavior. The plain and simple of it is, if no one buys it, all the sellers can do is go in and lower the prices. At first, of course, they'll be stiff-necked about it and refuse to budge. Eventually, they'll see the light and start by tiny increments to lower their sale prices.

Of course, they'll be greedily watching the pricing of other sellers, being careful not to drop their price precipitously, but trying to undercut their competition while still making an obscene profit. The longer the buyers hold out, though, the more they'll drop those prices because, as I said, there's nothing else they can do. They can't toss in a vacation to the Bahamas, or repaint the PLEX for you - add cupholders, or other "improvements". They literally have no choice.

Yet, as we all know, NO BODY IS GOING TO DO THAT. People who don't pay with real money will continue to bend over and take it from the sellers. Ain't no saint gonna come and save yah. This is pretty much how the oligarchs have gained control over the greater economy we know so well. They KNOW we'll never get together in a united front, and sacrifice to force their hands. So, they just keep stickin' it to us, and we keep takin' it, complainin' all the while, but still shelling out the bucks paying for their vacations in the Bahamas, (while we Google "vacation" to prove to ourselves it's still a word.)

SO...it's STUPID to discuss this. It's an either/or situation. Either everyone bans together and boycotts the sellers until they yield, OR...continue to get it through the backdoor, and learn how to take it with a smile. And....

...you're welcome.



TL;DR Judging by the post which immediately followed, I guess a PS is needed in the form of a TL;DR.
CCP will NEVER make a rule, or create a policy to affect PLEX prices. NEVER EVER EVER. WHY???
(You may ask.) Because they know ultimately the players can control this if they bother to DO IT.
IPSO FACTO - If we don't bother to fix it, we must deep down inside really like the way it is,
so why "fix" it if it ain't broke? After all, talk is cheap. It's what you DO that counts.

Anyone ever play that game for the snes P.T.O. ? Pacific Theater of Operations.

Is there one for the PC?

That game was so fun.

something something plex price too low or too high

The purpose of PLEX is not to make EVE free2play but to battle RMT. So the more expensive PLEX is the better it works because it is more competitive with illegal 3rth party RMT. So higher PLEX prices are actually better.