Crime & Punishment

Are there any pirate groups or solo pirates that actually do all their activities in lowsec, including their possible alt characters? I have read a lot of these forums and noticed that pirates tend to have alts in highsec space doing mining, missioning or some industrial activities including trading.

But, isn't that embarrassing to act like a real badass one arm pirate and then log in your carebear alt after you have lost your shiny ship?

There's not enough prey in lowsec to support a large number of pirates.

Have you considered basing out of Thera? It offers unique opportunities - including always being 1 wormhole connection from lowsec if you want to go there.

Losec is filled with ppl that buy plex for money (guilty) and warp around belts 24/7 to gank noobs. The few actual residents who eek out a living doing pos reactions etc are in station or afk cloaky, or sitting on pos.
I recently moved to losec from wspace and starting to regret it. It's not that I can't handle the jackasses, it's just there are so many of them and they complicate doing anything constructive. Gate guns should be buffed to 1 shot said jackasses.
In my experience, a noob ina noobship or a guy in a venture is 1 out of 10 ppl ina system. Really.
If I went pirate I know exactly what to do, join code and hisec gank.
O7

I'd add in another three groups

- People who are taking shortcuts moving from highsec to highsec
- Day 1 newbs who got lost somewhere
- People doing PI

Two of those groups do provide some useful prey for pirates but only enough to sustain a small number gamewide.

Low sec status does not mean "pirate". Even if it did, in order to profit from piracy, there would need to be an abundance of shipping, which there is not.

I live in Low Sec and I am a pirate, as of yesterday I can no longer enter Jita without the Caldari Navy shooting me, so that makes me feel a little special, I make ISK off selling the parts from ship wreaks, and I make extra ISK on the side by doing some ratting if I see something nice, but that has happened what.. 2 times now? So yeah, all my ISK comes from loot and stuff, it is enough to sustain my Thorax and Enyo fleet, oh how I love them, and I make my own Nanite Paste from some BPC's I have, got at least 20000 runs total left, ammo comes in wreaks too. Only time I go to High Sec is if the Low Sec pathways are camped, then I bounce through High to another entry, or I just jump to another part of New Eden via the WH's.

I am loving it! But generally most people run Incursions or things like that on the side, DED Sites are a good, if unreliable source of ISK, as are Data and Relic Sites (I don't know which one is worse in Low then it is in High). There are plenty of ways to survive just in Low, but I will admit, especially for a newer character, you won't make much, I make enough to just cover my losses, but I play to be a pirate in Low Sec, which means being that, which means certain things become locked off to me, and I love that now it is a semi-stuggle to keep my ships repaired and loaded!

It's a pirates life for me!

Hope that answered your questions, fly safe!

Yes, we are a prime example. I cleared a bil yesterday between shiny drops and finishing peoples DEDs. One of our guys made about 1.5b off a single kill (Santo) yesterday alone.

There aren't really any pirates that exist today as they once did. Back between 2003-05/6 actual pirate corps would ransom people when we caught them. If you were good it was fairly rare to actually kill someone as you'd convince them to pay you isk to let them go.

I remember back towards the end of 2004 I was flying a Scorpion in Dantumi with a corp mate (Vaygra) in a Raven when he stumbled across a Caldari Navy Raven, back then that was super rare and expensive. We engaged him on the gate and after an excellent fight, where I ended up in structure we were able to ransom him for 500mil while under sentry fire (ships didnt have the same tank as they do now). They bring back some fond memories and for all those reading this and thinking 500mil is nothing...back then that was a lot of isk!

Those days sadly are long gone. Now PVP groups that live in low sec are generally there for content without the sovereignty wars of 0.0. The largest groups are Snuff Box, Shadow Cartel and Dead Terrorists but there are many many more smaller corps all looking for their share in kills.

Honestly this thread is full of so many newbs without a clue..

There are plenty of groups that live and thrive in lowsec killing or chasing off anything and everything that comes by, while pvp, pve, and mining to there hearts content.

Honestly with the jump changes there are alot of pretty strong low sec groups with good moons and income that have full ship reimbursment and everything.. Its just about finding the right groups.

It is fairly easy to take moons from large groups when they are out of jump range.. its just about annoying them enough that the dont see it as worth it...

Moon mining is generally not what I would refer to as piracy.