Crime & Punishment

Do you still maintain that you could do it in your sleep?

So with that we create null sec market hubs, especially important with the new structures and to prevent meta gaming hell I would make it so that only people who have blue status can trade in them.

Once we have that sorted we can now move onto ganking in hisec. Starting from the proviso that there has to be risk in hisec as a base point, it comes to the fact of refining that risk based on what affects the hisec sandbox to try to create a happy level of balance, without destroying what is core to Eve and that is tough.

At the moment CODE which is funded by Goons in the main is an inbalance, the mechanics are all to their advantage, because there is no way to be pro-active, people go on about being -10, but people in Catalysts are very difficult to catch if they know what they are doing. I have detailed above a number of different solutions, for example harsher hisec penalties for gankers, including loss of docking rights in NPC stations and a AI CONCORD that hunts the ganker for 15 minutes while in space, which will hang around a victim. With that CODE would have to have a Citadel structure in Uedama for example which creates a choke point, but something that can be attacked.

On suggestion is to have a special definition for criminals within the game that makes them suspect based on certain criteria and longer than the normal period, so if Mr Goon with +5.00 security status blaps a freighter he immediately goes into that list and is suspect for 2 hours, add to that a new special medium power target lock breaker module that is special for freighters that forces people to use ships above Catalysts, we now have content that enables the AG players to actually be proactive.

Instead of CONCORD it is player driven content and the mechanics now enable active AG content rather than sitting waiting for the brief period to blap what they can, ECM as much as they can once they start firing and rep as much as they can, it will enable active combat that is more like what Eve players expect. Then it will truly be down to the players at that point...

EDIT admiral root is now blocked, as he has nothing intelligent to add.

Depends if Sherlock listens...

You are missing the point. No matter what you think of bumping, freighter ganking is intended gameplay built into the game by CCP. Whether you think a certain tactic is "cheap" or a "loophole", freighters are suppose to vulnerable. If CCP decided to tighten one strategy, they would open another so that these haulers would continue to be attack-able by other way by players in highsec. Just like when the re-balanced the freighters with low slots a few years back.

Sure, next winter. CCP is releasing some T2 destroyers which will allow you to fleet MJD your bumped freighter to safety. It isn't going to change much though. Freighters that take precautions are already 99.9% safe. This will be an honest-to-goodness counter to perma-bumping however, so the whiners and their apologists are going to have to look for something else to blame for their PvP losses than the bumping boogeyman when the same number of ships are still exploded by gankers each week.

CCP wants freighters to die in highsec: they think it good game play. As long as that is the case, there will be players who find exploding these haulers fun and will do it. Bumping is here to stay, as is the vulnerability of freighters in highsec to criminals. It's probably best that you accept that and what kind of game this is than to ride this emotional roller-coaster you are on where you think every change is somehow going to magically turn this game into the balanced ship combat simulator, free of gankers and criminals that you clearly want this game to be.

That is not Eve, at least not yet.

The reason is to get people to be able to try to proactively prevent ganks rather than wait for them to start shooting.

I suggested a spectrum lock breaker specific for a freighter, forcing the use of bigger ships that are easier to catch to create more player vs player content.

That would make the fight between the AG and gankers a lot more interesting, if that is of course what you want, it would get more balanced without losing PvP.

Ohnoes, I'm blocked for asking a question!

Could a spacebro do me a solid and ask Drac to answer the question that Pedro put to him, which Drac dodged with a whole lot of ~words~? Ta.

The guy you blocked asked this

I am curious what aspects of the PvP encounter you think are out of balance.

So you are suggesting:
- Loss of docking rights for criminals in NPC stations
- CONCORD being toned down so that they have smarter AI and follow you but were not instant-death
- A new flag where if you gank something you are suspect for 2h (did I get that right?)
- A new flag or status that affects whether people can shoot you in highsec but persists beyond a security status repair to prevent people from repairing their security status easily after ganking
- a mid-slot module that makes freighters immune from destroyers so gankers have to use cruisers or larger to gank them

I am not trying to be flippant. I am really trying to understand what you think would make freighter ganking balanced in highsec. If those were implemented, you think everything would be balanced?

I am sure there is room to make freighter ganking more engaging, and the gameplay of those that oppose it. But from my perspective, ganking is heavily balanced in favour of the defender. You can be 99.9% safe moving a freighter in highsec (and essentially 100% safe moving goods if you are willing to fly something else) if you take simple precautions. I am curious what aspects of the PvP encounter you think are out of balance.

anti-gankers still wouldnt engage a suspect machariel
they'll just whine about neutral logi and leave