Player Features and Ideas Discussion

HAHAHAHA! this is so golden! Tippia you're so desperate for me to admit anything that you even make up me saying anything! Oh gawd my sides are hurting! You're too funny! You're not just a troll you're a DESPERATE troll! You need to feel you're right and everyone is wrong you'll jsut say whatever to delude yourself further to feel self important! I love it! LOL oh my, I need ot go make dinner, thanks for the good laugh Tippia, we gotta do this again sometime. Would 8pm EST on skype do?

Posting in the most godawful thread in the most godawful forum on eve-o.

Hi Tippia.

seeing as this thread is the only posting the OP has ever done on the forums ... it's a hard call.

Now that the goons have seen this though, the posting is gonna get even better (assuming, ofc Ladie Harlot can be convinced to stop in).

I like the idea of painting corp/alliance ships up and having navies in 0.4 and 0.5 space.

However,

Cayate, you're not doing yourself any favors, nor the credibility of ideas presented, by coming off as a raving loon. I mean that in all kindness. Ad hominem is the last resort of those in an adult discussion.

…but that's just the problem: your ideas have already been thought of, already tested, and already proven to be rather bad. It is now up to you to address this issue and either figure out that your idea is indeed DOA, or you need to argue for something that makes it differ from the older incarnations — something that actually gives it any value.
You amuse yourself then. You are the one making attention-needy posts — the rest of us are trying to engage you in an argument about the value and feasibility of your ideas, and you have shown that you have no interest in this, instead preferring to be abusive and trolling.

Thus your ideas have lost any value they might have originally had as a result.

So do you have any actual argument to provide? If not, why would I?
Sure. As soon as you provide anything that establishes a need.
I did.

Tippia, you say things tried and failed. tried and failed, how did it function in first place? Were you part of the dev team helpig to code it into the game?

And I say give it up because you want to upset me and get me angry or somehting. I'm not. I'm laughing too much at your desperate attempts to get at me. I'm sure I've annoyed you with your responding to me again and again.\

And for your little discuss something comment. How about you put your crack pipe down and use whatever brain cells that aren't dead, to think of somehting about what I stated or an idea of your own. Like for instance, what colors do you think should be on a color palete for the paint job stuff? Do you think they should let us use NPC pirate emblems on our ships for fun or what? Let's here your brilliance you claim to have. Enlighten!

I think those are great ideas! I personally like to see more then customizable ship colors. I would like to see players able building their own custom ship with an x amount of customizable (low/mid/high) slots. resistance strong points. The ship would probably not be sellable to not to disrupt the market. I wish to buy/build a ship with a certain amount of fitting slots, but I can choose how many of the slots will be low/mid/high. And customize certain ship advantages like shield boost or missile velocity/damage etc.

You got SP in skills for using equipment. The problem had nothing to do with the system but with the behaviour it caused, and your idea will cause the same problem: it made people grind SP rather than play the game. That's the beauty of the EVE skill system and why it doesn't particularly need any grinding mechanics: because it lets you play the game rather than worry about skill progression.

What you're suggesting does the opposite. What you're suggesting doesn't work for the vast majority of skills. What you're suggesting applies only to some activities. All of these make your idea a bad one. All of this has already been mentioned, but you refuse to actually argue your point.

As for your highsec idea, you still haven't provided any reasoning or argument for the basic need behind it.
No. I want you to argue your point. It would prefer it if you managed to do so without the abuse and personal attacks, because they only show that you cannot actually discuss rationally, and that kind of blows any idea you have out of the water from the get-go — they're born out of an irrational mind.

*falls out of the chair laughing* Omg tippia! that finall comment did it! HAHAHAHA! when have humans ever been rational?! HAHAHA!!! humans are THE most irrational living thing on this planet!


As for your comment on the skills. you talk about bad beahvior. claiming it turns things into grinding.. but when are you NOT grinding when not pvping? LOL How long do you have to sit in na asteroid belt mining ore to build a battleship? Seems to me, that's grinding. Missions to get standings also a way of grinding. You getting standings and isk. It ain't jsut handed to you! If you want jsut pure PVP where everything is jsut handed to you, you don't have to train skills, build up isk, get standings so NPCs don't shoot you on site.. then EVE isn't the place for ya. You still have to grind the hours away performing those tasks.

As I was suggesting it that those tasks be more rewarding. Because anyone who wants ot jsut PVP jsut ques skills to train log off, goes and and gets laid. comes back days later ques more skills, never leaving the station. Then buys some plex to sell in jita and buys a capital ship or whatever. It takes an active player the same amount of time to train as the inactive. I'm guessing you tend ot be that inactive player right? don't want the active players training their skills faster than you?

The skill points rewarded to players is unassigned. meaning that those points are then applied to skills to lessen the training time. I don't see how encouraging players to play the game and reward them for the hours spent grinding away on missions or mining or whatever is going to encourage bad behavior if you put a limit to amount they earn. The bad behavior would be from using bot programs to build up points form somehting like mining.