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yeah sounds great for people who use entrosis, but what about people who dont live in sov? not really revitalising battleships is it?

This dues nothing to "revitalize" battleships, it just gives them a niche role in Null.

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Well, if CCP don't allow Capitals back into highsec, then Battleships will probably have a role in killing Citadels.

However, my guess would be that since Citadels will be in highsec and Capitals are being tied into killing them, then it's likely that Capitals will be back in highsec next year.

More needed for battleships if that's the case.

That would make them difficult to solo with frigates or destroyers.

Only thing I'd suggest about a BS would be speed them up just a tad. Nothing spectacular, maybe a mere 50mps. Wouldn't try to race a cruiser in one, just transverse a large mission zone without my beard growing another inch
in the process.

Isn't that just called a smart bomb ?

I've used a battleship in PVP three times:

First time I died without getting a hit on the smaller ships that kept me tackled and burned me down; they saw me coming and got their reinforcements on grid before I landed.

Second time I died (along with several other battleships) to a cruiser fleet but only after we'd killed a very shiny dread somebody already had tackled, so it was worth the loss

Third time I lived because we wiped the other fleet on grid, our smaller ships had them all tackled.

So yeah, battleships simply aren't well suited for the typical small gang PVP type action but they are well suited for some scenarios.

Oy, this topic again.


BS dont need point defense weapons or any other gimmick for "defending" against small targets. Most BS can handle themselves against a few frigs, or cruisers assuming you know how to fly/fit a BS. The weakness to small targets is an intended game design, but can be managed with good fitting. Battleships are supposed to be supported by smaller ships, not be solo pwn mobiles.

BS already have utility, larger drone bays than other non-drone orientated cruisers/BC and the option to fit MJD. Cruisers/frigs cannot fit MJD, nor do they have 24km heavy neuts.

A RHML typhoon/raven will murder frigs/cruisers. A cruise missile phoon also works fairly well. A nano tempest with dual heavy neuts is also good at dictating range since it can cap out tackle before they ever get close and then killed with its guns. Hyperion is a tanky ***** as is a triple rep tempest fleet issue.

There are some BS which dont do well in a solo role, such as the apoc, but they do well in fleet settings. Not all BS need to be good at the solo role.

As to the point defense argument about fitting small guns/launchers along side the large. I present you with RHML/RLML typhoon. Kill all frigs with RLML, and then kill all cruisers and BC with RHML. Hell i can even alternate them on reload times. Why would i fly any other ship when the BS has no weakness?

Warp speed is a non issue. Plan your warp so you dont get chased down. You warp to a gate at 0 when youre being chased by frigs/cruisers, thats on you. Now am i going to go on a 50j roam in one? Probably not. But if i had some support ships, i would not be opposed to it.

Not sure what the OP is on, but BS fleets are pretty common in my area of lowsec. I'm pretty sure this is coming from someone who is probably some Sov grunt. Please just stop.

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