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Which SSD to buy?

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Apostle Inconnu
#1 - 2011-12-30 17:13:39 UTC
hey all,

I just got an unexpected bonus from work and am thinking of buying a SSD but am a little bit of a nub when it comes to this technology. I'm running Win7 pro and currently have a 930gb HDD and don't know if I should plan on buying one big enough just for my windows install (32 or 64gb, my current install is around 22gb) or should I plan on "going big or going home" and buying something like a 320gb drive and running all my apps/games from that, and using the 930gb I have now as storage?

thanks in advance. not sure if it's kind of cool or kind of sad that "the EVE forums" is, by far, the best tech resource I have :\

Thanks in advance,
Inconnu
J Kunjeh
#2 - 2011-12-30 17:15:22 UTC
Wrong forum...check the Out Of Pod section as there's a WHOLE thread about SSD's there.

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Apostle Inconnu
#3 - 2011-12-30 17:19:15 UTC
thanks, not much of a forum goer, didn't know.
Warzon3
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-30 17:59:05 UTC
as said wrong forum but here is my advice.

I got a 64 GB SSD myself in my laptop and it supports Windows 7, EVE and League of Legends. At the end of this I got anywhere between 20 to 0 GB available depending on the amount of movie's/games I got.

I solved this by getting a 2 TB HDD for 100 euro's with USB 3.0. The SSD gives great speed on loading windows and games and the HDD is nice for the storage.

If I would buy a SSD right now I'd get myself atleast 128 GB or more but 64 GB is workable if you got an extra harddrive.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#5 - 2011-12-30 18:14:30 UTC
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Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#6 - 2011-12-30 18:21:18 UTC
use your mechanical drive for program installs, use the SSD for the OS. If you have never done SSD's before I would suggest going on ebay and picking up an Intel 320 ssd 120gb. It is not as fast as newer ones but it is still 90% of the improvement of mechanical drives and considering they are selling for about 120$ that should fix you up right and proper.

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Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-12-30 18:28:46 UTC
A smaller 64-128GB SSD and a larger storage drive work great, for the budget of a 320GB SSD you can easily pick up* a 128GB SSD and a ultra high speed HDD like a Western Digital Caviar black 2TB.

You can install the OS and any games you are currently playing the most on the SSD, everything else goes on the second drive.

*You might have to wait for HDD prices to recover, floods in Thailand destroyed or damaged the factory's that made the components and the ones that assembled the drives, all HDD prices went stupid because of this.
SpaceSquirrels
#8 - 2011-12-30 18:43:47 UTC
If you can try to get an "SLC" better overall performance and longevity and less error prone. (Though you'd only notice this in terms of time spent unless its really ****** up) The difference is in how they read/write, and store data per cell.

Apparently OCZ doesnt make them anymore, but intel does. get a 64-120 for OS and your few favorite apps, browser, games.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#9 - 2011-12-30 20:22:40 UTC
OCZ doesn't make them? The Vertex 3 is still listed on Newegg.

I've had a Vertex 2 in my wife's laptop for a year. If I could ever fit it in the budget, I'd put a pair in my desktop to replace my aging Raptors. Love the OCZ drives.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#10 - 2011-12-30 20:33:16 UTC
I've got a Corsair Force3 240GB drive for my OS, it's a speedy little guy. I wouldn't install on anything less than a 80GB tho.

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Darrow Hill
Vodka and Vice
#11 - 2011-12-30 20:57:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Darrow Hill
When you get down to it, comparing laptop drive prices at least, SSD's are pretty hard to pass up.

$119 for a 320gb 7200rpm Scorpio Black.

$149 for a 500gb 7200rpm Scorpio Black.

or

$159 for a 120gb Corsair Force 3.

The choice seems pretty obvious. Unless you really like cheap 5400rpm drives.
Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#12 - 2011-12-30 22:46:07 UTC
I stay away from OCZ products, they have a high failure rate which intel does not have. After that Crucial is supposedly the second best in reliability with their Cruicial M4 SSD.

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SlayerOfArgus
Hermes Enterprises
#13 - 2011-12-31 03:20:03 UTC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357

I just recently got this for my C drive in the desktop I just built. It's fast and you can put the basics on it while having everything else on a cheap external HDD. The SSD is smaller than some people would recommend I'm sure but I got it when it was on sale so it was worth it. Crucial is a really good brand overall. You will need a mount if you put it in a 3'5 drive bay.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-12-31 04:42:05 UTC
SpaceSquirrels wrote:
If you can try to get an "SLC" better overall performance and longevity and less error prone. (Though you'd only notice this in terms of time spent unless its really ****** up) The difference is in how they read/write, and store data per cell.

Apparently OCZ doesnt make them anymore, but intel does. get a 64-120 for OS and your few favorite apps, browser, games.


[nerd]
SLC stands for Single Layer Cell - this means that each "cell" of flash memory contains one bit of memory. SLC is an older technology, compared to the now ubiquitous MLC - Multi Layer Cell technology. As you might guess from the name, MLC allows you to store multiple bits per cell allowing much higher data densities. This means that MLC memory has higher capacity AND is cheaper to manufacture.

The downside is that MLC memory is more complex - which means that it is slower, more prone to errors and can sustain fewer read/write cycles (by an order of magnitude or 2). Unfortunately, MLC memory has almost entirely replaced SLC memory in the consumer market due to it's low cost and high capacity - the main factors consumers make while purchasing storage devices. It really is a shame that more companies don't offer higher performing storage devices using the older SLC technology.
[\nerd]

I still have an 8 GB SLC usb flash drive made by OCZ which I keep a copy of Ubuntu on for emergency PC repairs.
Glarion Garnier
Thermal reaction
#15 - 2011-12-31 14:16:50 UTC
Get a Crucial M4 ..

the 128GB ones are usually faster than 64GB ones (since there is more parths beeing used).. it's some what similiar to why 2 RAM sticks is better than one.. the capacity is used in parallel. The again the 256GB ones are seldom faster than the 128GB ones.

In my future plans there is only room for 128GB and larger drives just from the above mentioned reasons.

OCZ*s illindix based drives may be more reliable then the Sandforce based drives.

But yeah Crucial is safe bet and intel is bit over priced ..

Crucial is over due to release new products soon.
Barakkus
#16 - 2012-01-05 21:40:31 UTC
Intel SSDs are really good, if you can afford it get one of the 710s.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc