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What can we do that players stay in EVE?

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Adooni
H.O.M.E.W.O.R.L.D
#1 - 2015-10-16 05:59:58 UTC
I am not sure if you notice the same it is looking that we lost half of players playing the best game ever. My few colleague left game lately as it began to be to expensive for them to play.

Challenge I see is PLEX price few years ago it was 200M now is 1.2B but ships, weapon etc. price did not become few hundreds % more expensive. Additional PLEX/GTC for real money is twice more expensive compering to different MMO/Online games. We have now situation that players playing a lot and when do not have very good corporation just bleed trying to gather money for 1 PLEX . From second side people that are buying PLEX in real life become billionaires and can manipulate market what basically is killing this game.

We have got exactly the same situation few years ago in real life in Saudi Arabia where basically food product were so expensive that people started to starve. Then the Sheikh fix praises for same product and it is working for very long time.

I have Idea to set max price for PLEX at 500M ISK ( at Market and in Contracts) and when someone would like to sell his PLEX will go a little below this price to make his offer interested.

If you have different idea please post them here - I truly do not want this game to die. If we do not do anything next year PLEX price will be 2B and game will die.
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-10-16 06:14:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Adooni wrote:
My few colleague left game lately as it began to be to expensive for them to play.
To run 3 accounts its cost me $1.08/day by paying 12 months at a time. Even if you pay by the month it still costs less than $2/day.

If you cant afford to pay that, I can confidently say you should not be spending your time playing video games.

Adooni wrote:
PLEX price
The market determines the price of plex. If you cant make enough in game to afford it, quite frankly you are not putting in enough effort or you are not very good at the game.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Adooni
H.O.M.E.W.O.R.L.D
#3 - 2015-10-16 06:45:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Adooni
I see you are missing pint of my post but you and I have same rights we are at opposite site - I want this game to have a lot of players for example just now you have 13k online at beginning of 2015 was 22k+ at the same time. From 2014 about 100 of my colleagues left game because of PLEX price and as player that would like to EVE I am trying to find solution. In 2014 were often we seen 30k+ online now we can just dream about it and recall god times.

I am still playing game and lvl up 2 chars in the same time but there is a lot of players that leaving game because of PLEX price.

For sure not this year but maybe next year or year after EVE Online will be like a desert and I do not what this.

PS. Cost of 1 PLEX for some people is nothing but even in same EU countries is its 2-5% of salary. And those players that pare playing EVE as F2P buying PLEX in game are leaving - if some1 is not buying PLEX for $/E it not mean that is bad player and that is not needed. Those players is more than players buying subscription and when we loos than game will slowly die.
roberts dragon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-10-16 07:31:41 UTC
would say plex has gone to high ccp needs new players so things will have to change the current state of play is not getting more new players so game they way it is has to change so like anything else out with the old and in with the new.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#5 - 2015-10-16 07:54:45 UTC
The price CCP charges for PLEX hasn't changed in the time I have been playing the game. $19.95USD with volume discounts and occasional sales.

Every PLEX in the game was originally purchased by someone for real world money and that isn't likely to change - CCP is a business and can't afford to give their product away.

In game, the price is set by supply and demand. If more people want to use PLEX to pay for game time than want to sell PLEX for ISK, the price (measured in ISK) will increase.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2015-10-16 08:00:12 UTC
Adooni wrote:

If you have different idea please post them here.
Maybe CCP could try something like allowing older players to sell some of their skill points to newer players.

Mr Epeen Cool
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-10-16 08:05:27 UTC
Adooni wrote:
If we do not do anything next year PLEX price will be 2B.


You may be being optimistic. CCP have just unveiled another new use for PLEX, tailored towards the sort of players who can buy at any price. The speculators will very soon be at work pumping up PLEX price again in anticipation of this change.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-10-16 08:22:05 UTC
Nobody is entitled to playing the game for no pay (Cash, is what I mean by that). Eve is not a Free2Play game.

One month is 20 bucks at worst - that's a tad more expensive than some other games, that cost 15 bucks or so, but that's not too far out of the line in my book. 20 bucks a month - that's the baseline to go from. Are you willing to pay 20 bucks a month for the game or not?

Buying PLEX with ISK is an option, sure, but it only changes who paid those 20 bucks - they are still being paid, just not by you, but by the player selling the PLEX on the market. You cannot expect another player to pay for your account with less of a compensation (ISK), and CCP cannot in the long term effectively lower the PLEX price without removing things you can do with PLEX (AUR/NES, Character Transfer) and by doing that, they'd also hurt their income.

Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-10-16 09:23:03 UTC
So lets say CCP sets a limit of 500m for PLEX. Do you think you can play the game for free now ?

In reality, PLEX for this cheap would be sold out very soon as many people could afford it. So you sit in the station and wait infront of a dry market that someone puts up a PLEX that gets bought within seconds.

The only way that plex prices will go down is when ether less people want to buy plex from the market or more people buy a plex from CCP.

So what can you do ? Stop consuming plex and buy some from CCP.
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-10-16 09:24:31 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Adooni wrote:

If you have different idea please post them here.
Maybe CCP could try something like allowing older players to sell some of their skill points to newer players.

Mr Epeen Cool


I assume you're joking, but if PO continues to dwindle then CCP may get desperate and try something as stupid as this. At that time I'll begin unsubbing all my accounts because the game will then be garbage.
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-10-16 09:27:33 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Adooni wrote:

If you have different idea please post them here.
Maybe CCP could try something like allowing older players to sell some of their skill points to newer players.

Mr Epeen Cool


I assume you're joking, but if PO continues to dwindle then CCP may get desperate and try something as stupid as this. At that time I'll begin unsubbing all my accounts because the game will then be garbage.


Can I have your stuff ?

This
Daniela Doran
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-10-16 09:33:23 UTC
Adooni wrote:
I am not sure if you notice the same it is looking that we lost half of players playing the best game ever. My few colleague left game lately as it began to be to expensive for them to play.

Challenge I see is PLEX price few years ago it was 200M now is 1.2B but ships, weapon etc. price did not become few hundreds % more expensive. Additional PLEX/GTC for real money is twice more expensive compering to different MMO/Online games. We have now situation that players playing a lot and when do not have very good corporation just bleed trying to gather money for 1 PLEX . From second side people that are buying PLEX in real life become billionaires and can manipulate market what basically is killing this game.

We have got exactly the same situation few years ago in real life in Saudi Arabia where basically food product were so expensive that people started to starve. Then the Sheikh fix praises for same product and it is working for very long time.

I have Idea to set max price for PLEX at 500M ISK ( at Market and in Contracts) and when someone would like to sell his PLEX will go a little below this price to make his offer interested.

If you have different idea please post them here - I truly do not want this game to die. If we do not do anything next year PLEX price will be 2B and game will die.


If you go to account manager from the eve launcher you can purchase game packages from 12.95 down to only 10.95 a month. Idk why people still insist on complaining about plex prices when they can easily pay for game time at a much cheaper price using this method. Still I would like plex prices to stabilize at 1 bill isk for an alternative method of paying for plex within game.
Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-10-16 09:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Otso Bakarti
I love how people juggle figures to support their preferred outcomes. It's absurd to claim something that at one time cost 350 million ISK, that now costs 1 billion ISK is a no harm, no foul non-event noticed only by the naive, ill-informed or lazy.

I love how people who have a virtual economic interest in prices soaring claim it's not a bad thing, or something that begs notice and for the good of the "game" everyone should just pretend it's normal and go on with your business.

I love how people often claim the amount of time it takes to obtain items with in-game currency is so insignificant if you think it is significant you must suck at the game.

BUT, what brings the most joy to my heart is for whom the game is being tailored!
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=450957&find=unread

It's all truly inspiring!

There just isn't anything that can be said!

Irya Boone
The Scope
#14 - 2015-10-16 09:44:58 UTC
Open the f... door and let people explore structures ( stations, ruines , mining platform, and PLANETS !!)

Make the asteroids BIGGER AND when i say Bigger i mean bigger ...

Make stars explode ( so stellar systems disapear... ) would be nice to see jita disapear. ( Dynamic environnement)

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB

Teinyhr
Ourumur
#15 - 2015-10-16 09:46:00 UTC
Well for one we could stop peddling the idea that alts are mandatory. Frankly I've found that people who take this game too serious tend to burn out faster. If I had the same whinyass bittervet attitude how new players have it too easy that oozes from every other post these days I'd had quit years ago.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2015-10-16 09:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Daniela Doran wrote:
Adooni wrote:
I am not sure if you notice the same it is looking that we lost half of players playing the best game ever. My few colleague left game lately as it began to be to expensive for them to play.

Challenge I see is PLEX price few years ago it was 200M now is 1.2B but ships, weapon etc. price did not become few hundreds % more expensive. Additional PLEX/GTC for real money is twice more expensive compering to different MMO/Online games. We have now situation that players playing a lot and when do not have very good corporation just bleed trying to gather money for 1 PLEX . From second side people that are buying PLEX in real life become billionaires and can manipulate market what basically is killing this game.

We have got exactly the same situation few years ago in real life in Saudi Arabia where basically food product were so expensive that people started to starve. Then the Sheikh fix praises for same product and it is working for very long time.

I have Idea to set max price for PLEX at 500M ISK ( at Market and in Contracts) and when someone would like to sell his PLEX will go a little below this price to make his offer interested.

If you have different idea please post them here - I truly do not want this game to die. If we do not do anything next year PLEX price will be 2B and game will die.


If you go to account manager from the eve launcher you can purchase game packages from 12.95 down to only 10.95 a month. Idk why people still insist on complaining about plex prices when they can easily pay for game time at a much cheaper price using this method. Still I would like plex prices to stabilize at 1 bill isk for an alternative method of paying for plex within game.
Some people obviously like to work a second job that pays peanuts. When PLEX hit 500M I stopped using it to pay for my game time every month, it's far quicker for me to do some RL work for an hour and pay with RL cash.

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#17 - 2015-10-16 10:47:19 UTC
if plex price was 200m id need to buy 10 just to fit my panther, no thanks

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-10-16 10:52:41 UTC
Captain Awkward wrote:
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Adooni wrote:

If you have different idea please post them here.
Maybe CCP could try something like allowing older players to sell some of their skill points to newer players.

Mr Epeen Cool


I assume you're joking, but if PO continues to dwindle then CCP may get desperate and try something as stupid as this. At that time I'll begin unsubbing all my accounts because the game will then be garbage.


Can I have your stuff ?

This

Its now...


CAN I HAVE YOUR SP?
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#19 - 2015-10-16 11:01:17 UTC
Another "make EVE f2p" thread.

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

David Therman
#20 - 2015-10-16 11:25:31 UTC
Daniela Doran wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Adooni wrote:

If you have different idea please post them here.
Maybe CCP could try something like allowing older players to sell some of their skill points to newer players.

Mr Epeen Cool


I assume you're joking, but if PO continues to dwindle then CCP may get desperate and try something as stupid as this. At that time I'll begin unsubbing all my accounts because the game will then be garbage.


Prepare yourself;

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=450912&find=unread
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