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Question for highsec mission runners and nullsec sanctum runners
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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-05 19:50:49 UTC
I just want to make a conparision between highsec mission runners and sanctum runners as regards there bounty update every 20 minutes (not including mission rewards or LP conversion please highsec people).


I run a gank fit, max SP nightmare and normally run highsec missions. My bounty update is normally between 12-18 million every 20 minutes although it has been as high as 25 million with the right missions.

Thanks for your answers.
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#2 - 2012-01-05 19:56:03 UTC
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-05 20:26:03 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
I just want to make a conparision between highsec mission runners and sanctum runners as regards there bounty update every 20 minutes (not including mission rewards or LP conversion please highsec people).


I run a gank fit, max SP nightmare and normally run highsec missions. My bounty update is normally between 12-18 million every 20 minutes although it has been as high as 25 million with the right missions.

Thanks for your answers.


So I take it that you neither take the time for looting nor for salvaging?

Mind if I join in with a noctis?

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-01-05 20:34:38 UTC
'bout the same
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#5 - 2012-01-05 20:38:16 UTC
SISI.

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Hainnz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-05 20:46:02 UTC
My bounties are usually around 7-8m per update.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#7 - 2012-01-05 20:54:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Gustav
In my experience, flying similar shiptypes, the ticks in null are only slightly higher than their empire counterparts. Granted, we have to watch out for reds and neuts. This can slow us down from time to time, depending on intel and such.

However, in (most) null there are no:


  • Bountiless/securityless Drones
  • Bountiless/securityless Mercs
  • Bountiless/standingspenalty Navy ships
  • Securityless EOM
  • Back to back courier missions
  • Back to back faction kill missions


Null pilots don't have to dock up to change their hardeners, either. So even though the ticks are about the same per tick, the null pilot winds up with more ticks in the same allocation of playtime. However, the rats in the Drone Regions don't provide bounties or security/standings bumps.

Also, in null I seem to get a faction spawn at least once a week (depends on activity). Granted, not all faction spawns drop incredible loot, but in empire it took me 3+ years of running level 4's on an alt to finally get a faction spawn. It happened in Hakeri for those who want to know. The Blockade, Angel faction. I got a low-grade halo beta off the wreck.

After adding all this up, there seems to be more money in null bounties, from my experience. This does not take into account the faction spawn bounties, nor any loot or salvage. Adding all of those in, any doubt vanishes as to nullsec's superiority from a PVE combat ISK-earning standpoint.

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-05 21:41:16 UTC
12-16 million per tick running havens in null.

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1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-05 21:46:06 UTC
I can guarantee you that you do not run a max SP nightmare
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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
#10 - 2012-01-05 23:33:25 UTC
You can get up to 20m solo in hubs alone. If you'r properly fit, or got good buddies, you can get far more in havens.

I wouldn't recomend sanctums for solo running, I use to get more isk/h in havens.

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Karn Dulake
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-01-06 00:27:31 UTC
Thanks for all the answers


just a few things

1. I dont salvage as im in a gank fit ship and it would not be worth my time

2. i fly a maxed out 5/5 nightmare. but i am not running amarr missions or the tick would be much higher. I get a very good Lp exchange and im mainly fighting serps and guristas

3. thanks Darth really nice answer

4. Dr karsun i have heard that and for a lot of different reasons. i have a friend who only flies hubs as when gankers arrive they aways check the sanctums first.
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#12 - 2012-01-06 23:44:15 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:

2. i fly a maxed out 5/5 nightmare. but i am not running amarr missions or the tick would be much higher. I get a very good Lp exchange and im mainly fighting serps and guristas


Good Dear sweet god why do you hate yourself so much? Get a... whatever it is that shoots Guristas/Serp well. Probably a Vindi or Mach.

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Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-01-07 01:18:06 UTC
Karn Dulake wrote:
4. Dr karsun i have heard that and for a lot of different reasons. i have a friend who only flies hubs as when gankers arrive they aways check the sanctums first.


yup.

Also: at least where I am, heavens tick is higher than sanctums just because CCP didn't understood that increase sanctums/heavens value wouldn't necessarily need more mobs or harder ones, just increase mobs value and faction spawns would be enough.

Actually I'm wining dozens more millions just by salvaging T2/3 wrecks after fights and looting some stuff than run sanctums/heavens indefinitely just like high sec missions. Plus, sometimes you have some lasting idiot uncloaking and trying to loot some stuff. Just uncloak and "gang bang" it, profit Lol