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EVELOPEDIA is currently crap, needs addressed

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Orob Ninebands
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-10-15 01:12:37 UTC
So, I have been fairly frustrated with EvElopedia, which I would point out appears to be CCP's official wiki, as it is on the eveonline.com domain.

Much of the information in the EvElopedia is outdated and contains many innaccuracies.

When Googling for information, many links are found to EvElopedia, and as it is CCP's site (or so one would surmise), one would expect to get accurate information from this resource.

The fact that it shows up near the very top of Google searches and contains bad information is a serious "here is your Rubik's Cube, go f**k yourself" to the new players who are trying to find information about the game they are playing. Having a terribly, or not at all, maintained resource out there cannot be good for new player retention, and even as a player with a few years under my belt I find it annoying and nearly worthless, as I have to fact check everything I find in this wiki.

Would the CSM please consider leaning on CCP to make some sort of effort at updating EvElopedia when changes are implemented in the game, or just get rid of the damn thing.

If I misunderstand how Evelopedia works, and it is supposed to be community updated, then that is a failure of concept in the first place and should be addressed.

No matter what the case, that site is not doing anyone any favors by giving outdated and false information.

For the love of Bob, please think of the new players!
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#2 - 2015-10-15 01:30:41 UTC
You can make edits to the wiki, right?
Orob Ninebands
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-10-15 01:36:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Orob Ninebands
Rawketsled wrote:
You can make edits to the wiki, right?


That is what I'm not sure about. Which is why I mentioned that I didn't know if it was supposed to be community maintained.

The point is that it is not maintained, appears to be a CCP product and not everyone understands the wiki process. So, either an effort should be made to maintain it, or it should go away. Bad info is worse than no info.

And seriously, it wouldn't take much more time than writing a devblog for CCP to edit changes. Considering that there is no manual for this game, that site is the closest thing we have, and its in really bad shape.

Maybe I should push for a community effort to get it cleaned up? Dunno.

Also, it would need active community participation on a constant basis to ensure that what is being edited or added is actually correct. You know this community as well as I do, and I'm sure you can see the possible train wrecks in allowing players to maintain it.
Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2015-10-15 02:04:44 UTC
Orob Ninebands wrote:
Rawketsled wrote:
You can make edits to the wiki, right?


That is what I'm not sure about. Which is why I mentioned that I didn't know if it was supposed to be community maintained.

The point is that it is not maintained, appears to be a CCP product and not everyone understands the wiki process. So, either an effort should be made to maintain it, or it should go away. Bad info is worse than no info.

And seriously, it wouldn't take much more time than writing a devblog for CCP to edit changes. Considering that there is no manual for this game, that site is the closest thing we have, and its in really bad shape.

Maybe I should push for a community effort to get it cleaned up? Dunno.

Also, it would need active community participation on a constant basis to ensure that what is being edited or added is actually correct. You know this community as well as I do, and I'm sure you can see the possible train wrecks in allowing players to maintain it.

Again, you are able to make changes to the evelopedia yourself. Find the entries you know stuff about, and change them. Not difficult at all.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#5 - 2015-10-15 02:10:18 UTC
You can edit many pages within the wiki.

So, you should use your frustrations to correct faults that you find.

Start fixing the wiki, then come back and say "Hey CSM, I'm fixing this wiki all by myself. It's a big job, and I'd like some help." People will listen to you that way. Don't cry about a problem you're not willing to have a part in fixing.
Akrasjel Lanate
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Immemorial Coalescence
#6 - 2015-10-16 12:58:07 UTC
Well its a Wiki
Quote:

wiki
[wik-ee]
noun, plural wikis.
1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a website that allows anyone to add, delete, or revise content by using a web browser.


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Orob Ninebands
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-10-20 22:35:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Orob Ninebands
Rawketsled wrote:
You can edit many pages within the wiki.

So, you should use your frustrations to correct faults that you find.

Start fixing the wiki, then come back and say "Hey CSM, I'm fixing this wiki all by myself. It's a big job, and I'd like some help." People will listen to you that way. Don't cry about a problem you're not willing to have a part in fixing.



Well, no **** Sherlock. I was unclear as to whether or not this was a community-editable wiki. And where did I say that I wasn't willing to take part in it? Quite the assumption there asshat.

My second point is that a community-editable wiki with no oversight is bound to get filled with troll entries. If it's CCP's, then they should do something to try to ensure its accuracy, otherwise it is unreliable. I could troll-edit the whole damn thing and nobody would notice.
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#8 - 2015-10-20 23:22:37 UTC
Orob Ninebands wrote:
[...] I could troll-edit the whole damn thing and nobody would notice.

Then go do that.

The wiki is filled with outdated information, not malicious information. That's evidence that despite people being able to troll the wiki, they still don't.

If it's a community updated wiki, it's up to the community to ensure it's updated. It wouldn't be the responsibility of the CSM or CCP to do that.
Orob Ninebands
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-10-20 23:38:26 UTC
Rawketsled wrote:
Orob Ninebands wrote:
[...] I could troll-edit the whole damn thing and nobody would notice.

Then go do that.

The wiki is filled with outdated information, not malicious information. That's evidence that despite people being able to troll the wiki, they still don't.

If it's a community updated wiki, it's up to the community to ensure it's updated. It wouldn't be the responsibility of the CSM or CCP to do that.



Well, I'm of the opinion that there should be something like this that IS CCP's responsibility, as there is no manual for this game. There needs to be some info that is kept current, is accurate, and is not susceptible to trolling.

Anyway, as I push that idea, I'll see if I can't get some community effort behind the ill-conceived site that we have.