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What are your fraternization policies for your crews?
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Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#21 - 2015-10-14 19:29:37 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Rhoxy Runekin wrote:
Sometimes, the drones that crew my ship will fall over. So I hired a small team of well-built individuals to set them back up again so that my crew can continue to work indefinitely. I haven't noticed them fraternizing much, but they do tend to do a lot of fist bumping, and patting each other on the posterior.


But Miss Runekin! If you hired a crew to keep your drone crew from falling over, doesn't that make the drone crew redudant?

Redundancy saves lives.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Mika Tanaka
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-10-14 19:31:26 UTC
Rain6637 wrote:
Mika Tanaka wrote:
My fraternization policies are simple: I fraternize my crew myself. If they misbehave I fraternize them even more until they stop.

Well. There's that solution but it has a couple shortfalls. I only have so many clones and earmarking one for morale is a bit much. Also in the case of my crew, the involved are all male, as is the majority on board. And I don't think they'd be into my kind anyway.

Honey! It doesn't matter males they are or females! When I do fraternize with them the only thing that matters for me is how cute and cuddly they are! And even if they aren't, I work to make them cute and cuddly. Fraternization of such sort is not a simply morale raiser, it is a very good fun for you and your crew, recreation and relaxation. If you try to do it as a 'job' for morale raising you will only end hating yourself. Just have some fun!
Arrendis
TK Corp
#23 - 2015-10-14 19:44:28 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Well, ma'am. This isn't just a "fraternization". It is an outrageous perversion, violation of Corporate Marriage code of conduct and basic human dignity. [...]

Such behavior in the State is not tolerated. Of course my recommendations would work for Caldari, but gallente... you know, they might even allow such sort of... well.


You keep saying this, yet I've known a number of same-sex married couples among the Caldari. Can you please cite the specific ordinance(s) that enforce your position?
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#24 - 2015-10-14 19:49:50 UTC
Mika Tanaka wrote:
Rain6637 wrote:
Mika Tanaka wrote:
My fraternization policies are simple: I fraternize my crew myself. If they misbehave I fraternize them even more until they stop.

Well. There's that solution but it has a couple shortfalls. I only have so many clones and earmarking one for morale is a bit much. Also in the case of my crew, the involved are all male, as is the majority on board. And I don't think they'd be into my kind anyway.

Honey! It doesn't matter males they are or females! When I do fraternize with them the only thing that matters for me is how cute and cuddly they are! And even if they aren't, I work to make them cute and cuddly. Fraternization of such sort is not a simply morale raiser, it is a very good fun for you and your crew, recreation and relaxation. If you try to do it as a 'job' for morale raising you will only end hating yourself. Just have some fun!

I think I would enjoy being a member of your crew... are you, perchance, hiring on a trial basis?

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#25 - 2015-10-14 20:07:16 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Well, ma'am. This isn't just a "fraternization". It is an outrageous perversion, violation of Corporate Marriage code of conduct and basic human dignity. [...]

Such behavior in the State is not tolerated. Of course my recommendations would work for Caldari, but gallente... you know, they might even allow such sort of... well.


You keep saying this, yet I've known a number of same-sex married couples among the Caldari. Can you please cite the specific ordinance(s) that enforce your position?


It is corporate practice with same gender arrangements not being permitted or recognized in the State. Each corporation probably has its own ordinance.

Sad but true.

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Wendrika Hydreiga
#26 - 2015-10-14 20:08:04 UTC
Rhoxy Runekin wrote:
They have to be redundant, they keep falling over! My biological crew is far smaller, and as such I find I have to spend far less on Quafe and jerky flavor Protein Delicacies than if i had a fully breathing crew. Besides, it feels funny having so many humans running around inside of me.


Here's an idea. Install rails on your ship so the drones don't fall over! Seriously, it's like you are trying to be inefficient on purpose!
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#27 - 2015-10-14 20:33:10 UTC
Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:
Rhoxy Runekin wrote:
They have to be redundant, they keep falling over! My biological crew is far smaller, and as such I find I have to spend far less on Quafe and jerky flavor Protein Delicacies than if i had a fully breathing crew. Besides, it feels funny having so many humans running around inside of me.


Here's an idea. Install rails on your ship so the drones don't fall over! Seriously, it's like you are trying to be inefficient on purpose!

No such thing as "inefficient redundancy" it's "multi-tier safety measures"

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Mika Tanaka
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2015-10-14 21:13:36 UTC
Tyrel Toov wrote:

I think I would enjoy being a member of your crew... are you, perchance, hiring on a trial basis?

I get crewmembers assigned by CONCORD and don't get into all these boring paper details myself. You are, on other hand, is a capsuleer yourself and you can earn way better than I could offer you for cargo runs. Yet something tells me you just want to get into my pants instead of joining super cool haul fun team to work together and earn couple of isk. I have to admit though that I would like to see you moving cargo boxes while wearing nothing except a bunny ears headband.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#29 - 2015-10-14 21:32:35 UTC
Mika Tanaka wrote:
while wearing nothing except a bunny ears headband.

......I think I just heard my crew drop a crate of Caldari Navy Nova missiles..... I should go investigate that.....

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-10-14 22:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Corraidhin Farsaidh
Neph wrote:
I don't care what my crew does when I'm not watching. If they take inappropriate action towards each other while I, their superior, am present, or if whatever they're doing causes any breakdown in their ability to operate my ship, I'll fire all involved, expel them at the nearest station, and add my poor remarks to their public resume.

They're fully aware of it. I've never had a problem.


exactly my approach, never had a problem yet.

ED: Actually I'll clarify...I've never had a problem yet and insist on being invited to all the parties :D
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-10-15 01:11:57 UTC
Rhoxy Runekin wrote:
Sometimes, the drones that crew my ship will fall over. So I hired a small team of well-built individuals to set them back up again so that my crew can continue to work indefinitely. I haven't noticed them fraternizing much, but they do tend to do a lot of fist bumping, and patting each other on the posterior.


Are you using bipedal drones?

If yes, what is wrong with you? Bipedal design is very inefficient and always cost more than they are worth, due to needing advance algorithm to control the complicated network of hydraulics at the legs.

Use a hexapod, octapod, levitators, hybrids or hovers for Spirit's sake!

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#32 - 2015-10-15 04:20:14 UTC
I hire mostly ex-Navy when crewing my ships. They're well disciplined and know how to react under pressure, and they also have the general attitude about that screwing around on the job can get them all killed in combat.

Relationships between my crew? So long as they don't let it interfere with their duties, it's fine. If I think it'll be a problem, they're reassigned to different projects where how they spend their free time won't have serious repercussions.

My most valuable crew, though, are the old intelligence team that I worked with in the State Navy. I called in favors, and spent a lot of isk, to secure their contracts and managed to convince most of them to transfer to Crimson Serpent. Best baseliner team I've worked with.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#33 - 2015-10-15 05:49:37 UTC
Arrendis wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Well, ma'am. This isn't just a "fraternization". It is an outrageous perversion, violation of Corporate Marriage code of conduct and basic human dignity. [...]

Such behavior in the State is not tolerated. Of course my recommendations would work for Caldari, but gallente... you know, they might even allow such sort of... well.


You keep saying this, yet I've known a number of same-sex married couples among the Caldari. Can you please cite the specific ordinance(s) that enforce your position?

My understanding is that the State doesn't so much forbid same gender marriage as not permit it - a slim distinction to be sure. As for same-sex relationships, they are not so much banned as culturally frowned upon, to the point of termination of contract, refusal of service, social shunning and so forth.


I dunno though. Some companies may have restrictive policies.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Goldfinch
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2015-10-15 06:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Goldfinch
Arrendis wrote:
You keep saying this, yet I've known a number of same-sex married couples among the Caldari. Can you please cite the specific ordinance(s) that enforce your position?


To add to what Tuulinen-haan said, State Corporations have wide latitude over employee marriage policies, and as such these policies do not recognize or legally permit same-sex marriage within State borders. The marriage itself is not banned in spirit, as said, but it confers no legal or political benefit.

It is not to say a division or enclave of a Megacorp does not permit more liberal policies.

\J/

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my origin story (on eve-backstage)
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-10-15 11:01:04 UTC
There's a reason those of us with such attractions are usually found outside the State.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2015-10-15 16:18:38 UTC
It should also be stated that the same social biases that would frown on openly same-sex relationships would also frown on people taking an interest in what two people get up to behind closed doors.

However I completely understand why those committed to an openly same-sex relationship who also feel the need to conform to the social trends of their chosen home, might avoid settling in the State. Capsuleers themselves are generally capable of pursuing any relationship they damn well choose. I know several State capsuleers who have same-sex relationships, quite openly, who consider themselves beyond the reach of social opprobrium.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2015-10-15 16:27:30 UTC
I would like to note that it isn't just 'social' construct, it is also biological and natural construct. Maker has made us in two genders for a reason. Besides, otherwise we couldn't procreate, and such sort of activity would be only a perversion. Since procreation itself is rather filthy, dirty, disgusting and painful process, participating in related activity without actual procreation is the perversion even if done with proper gender coupling.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2015-10-15 16:48:37 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I would like to note that it isn't just 'social' construct, it is also biological and natural construct. Maker has made us in two genders for a reason. Besides, otherwise we couldn't procreate, and such sort of activity would be only a perversion. Since procreation itself is rather filthy, dirty, disgusting and painful process, participating in related activity without actual procreation is the perversion even if done with proper gender coupling.


So basically you are trying to torture yourself back on then when I was still with the TLF.

Oh how do you hate yourself.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#39 - 2015-10-15 17:09:53 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:

So basically you are trying to torture yourself back on then when I was still with the TLF.

Oh how do you hate yourself.

Freaking gallentean liar, I wasn't doing or trying to do anything like that, you filthy creature!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Mika Tanaka
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-10-15 17:26:30 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I would like to note that it isn't just 'social' construct, it is also biological and natural construct. Maker has made us in two genders for a reason. Besides, otherwise we couldn't procreate, and such sort of activity would be only a perversion. Since procreation itself is rather filthy, dirty, disgusting and painful process, participating in related activity without actual procreation is the perversion even if done with proper gender coupling.

Someone seems to be over-under-fraternized.