EVE General Discussion

I suggest:
1) Starting all <30 day accounts in a new "Capsuleer Training Corp", which is immune to wardecc.
2) Rendering all NPC corps wardecable (note: against its capsuleer members, not against its NPC elements).

After that 30 days, the character is relegated to their default NPC corp (as in character generation) (which is wardecable and cost of which is undecided, pending rumoured wardec changes somewhere in the pipe).
They can ofc join an NPC or Player Corp, or form their own, at any time they wish within that 30 days.

But yes, basically after 30 days, you become vulnerable to wardecing, no matter where you end up.

To my mind, the proposal I make is robust, simple and intuitive, as well as implementable with a minimum of developer time.

I understand some may perceive my proposal as unduly harsh, but I dont see it that way.
NPC Corps, as they now stand, are an artificial and unconstructive restriction of the sandbox.
Furthermore, they are not helpful to new players, in large part, purely because of their chat (which is more often than not quite dead and unresponsive to new players.). Furthermore, there are many other channels new players can join for more active help.

NPC corps have only one justification for their existance, and that is wardec immunity.
I dont find that a valid justification. I find it is more harmful to the dynamic player sandbox, as an artificial shield based on an arbitrary PvE mechanic. Its not only new players that may cling to this, its also a huge proportion of alts of experienced players. Trying to use new players as a human shield, in defence of this wardec immunity, is not really honest nor valid. New players in NPC corps are outnumbered many times over by the real beneficiaries of this artificial, undynamic and restrictive pvp immunity, of experienced players who really shouldnt have this crutch in the first place.

My proposal also makes CCP interaction and focusing on the NPE far more direct and localised. Rather than rookies being spread through NPC corps all around, they are instead in one central corp. This makes such things as new player interactive events run by CCP a real and pragmatic possibility. A centralized New Player corp, is a far more efficient format for supporting, creating content for, and understanding/reacting to new player concerns.

In my proposal, new players have 30 days of wardec immunity. 
Thats enough for them to have a reasonably safe and incubated start.
After that, welcome to EVE, proper.

The exodus that would follow from NPC corps, pending my proposal, would nigh explosively re-invigorate the community and systemically, exponentially, create more dynamic content as thousands upon thousands of characters (and players) flood to existing corps or form their own. Both during the transition period, and in perpetuity therafter.

As to the concern of price of wardeccing a NPC corp, and the thousands of targets that would enable, this is offset, invariably, by one direct result of my proposed change itself. That of why would anyone remain in these NPC corps, where they can be wardecced en masse.

NPC corps will become ALMOST ENTIRELY EMPTY of active characters, within a matter of of a few weeks. 

At best, NPC corps would remain only as a temporary holding corp while a character undergoes application to another corp, or forms their own. This, to my mind, is EXACTLY what NPC corps should be, and all they should be. Not a contrivance to enjoy an artificial security.

Many have asked "whats the point in joining a corp in HS, rather than staying in an NPC corp." The answer, largely, is currently "little to none". This in and of itself justifies the change I propose. Therafer the question will instead be "whats the point in staying in an NPC corp, rather than joining a player corp" , and to which the answer would be FAR more diverse, constructive and conducive than to the former.

You really expect player who stayed in NPC corp for the wardec immunity would not just form 1 man corps thus generating content for no-one and adding nothing to the community?

Yes, but so what.

-They are no longer new players (having passed 30 days).
-They are thereafter no less safe than any other non-new character in HS.
-Nobody, rationally, would remain in the NPC corp beyond the time it takes to apply to an existing corp, or foem one of their own.

NPC corps will become almost entirely empty of active characters, in a mere matter of weeks, as thousands upon thousands of non-new characters/players relocate into existing player corps, or form their own.

NPC Corps will become, as is rarional, merely a hold-over corp while players transit to a player corp or form their own.

Station traders, ofc, may still have reason to remain in them.
But again, so what. Wardec them all you want. They will almost never, if ever, enter into space.
The 30day NPE Corp wardec restriction is sufficient for them to reach their intended station home.
Thereafter, they can relocate, as can existing characters, even if in a wardecced NPC corp, with a rather insignificant inconvenience.

Some will.
I cant speculate on how many.
Many will instead join the recruitment market, and player corps, thereby enriching the player dynamics of EVE.

Who knows, perhaps even new, previously impossible, player corp alliancesnwith thousands of characters will form in HS, for collective security, mutual profits and community specific to their HS concerns.

Do you see the kind of incredible potential I am talking about?

Thousands upon thousands of new corps, even if 1 man, is a better option for content and player dynamics, than thousands upon thousands of characters sitting in NPC corps just for the artificial wardec shield.

Those 1man corps might grow, or recruit. They might join in alliances according to their HS interests. Those alliances and corps might grow in unprecedented ways and change the face of HS dramatically, as a PLAYER based community, rather than an NPC based one.

NPC corps cannot do that, and do not.

i guess this can go 2 ways, 1 man corp players end up quiting because they are too stubborn to join up to player corps and get bored with nobody to talk to or they all join up together and live happy ever after

How is this premise flawed?

How is the rest of my proposal flawed?

This makes the assumption that the exodus is to another corp, and not another game entirely.

People stay in NPC corps because they like that style of play. Anytime any style of play is removed, some fraction of those who enjoy that style will leave the game.

Enter Salvos Rhoska, a new challanger for Carrie-Ann's top spot.

Dear OP,

Please stop beating the dead horse... again. Every few months someone comes with the same 'nerf NPC corps' proposal in some guise or another, and it's not really getting any better on repetition.

Basically, your dream of a 'target rich environment' is not going to happen, due to people (including me) either quitting EVE altogether or forming a 1-man-corps.

Nah this dudes a chump.

I think they should just enable Friendly Fire in Npc corps.