Player Features and Ideas Discussion

1. It's actually a rather simple math formula to figure it out, and once you learn it you never need look at an info page again to figure it out.

2. When you pile a bunch of different drones into the drone bay, how is the system supoosed to automatically know which set you intend to use. It cannot, so it defaults to the largest set. If you want to know DPS of smaller drones, take the bigger ones out of the drone bay.

3. True percentage is really irrelevant here. You know they're damaged, and you can tell roughly how much. This is good enough for drones.

4. Carry a mobile depot with remote reps in your hold. Refit for reps, repair deployed drone. Drones are pretty low in HP, so only takes one rep to do the job.

5. Remember, drones are dumb on purpose. Smart drones go rogue.

Stop posting bad ideas and I'll stop pointing out thag they're bad ideas. Beyond that, the personal insults are uncalled for.

They're not bad ideas.

Well, apart from number 4, which is just a suggestion, and I don't really care about it.

The rest of them are UI suggestions for better quality of life.
What I'm suggesting is no more than the information you can see when you hover your pointer over a module in your hud.
Only, they're applied to drones.

Now, as far as the last part, that is not a personal insult; but rather, an observation of the douche nature of the self proclaimed "elite" that come on the forums bashing ideas and other players, because they can, and because they feel that their failures in life can be taken out on others. You know, keyboard warriors.

I'm not sure how you'd like it to work...

With focus fire UNCHECKED and aggressive mode ON? You want salvage drones to just split to 5 different wrecks?

Do salvage drones even work "aggressively"? If you launch them with "Aggressive" ON, do they automatically start salvaging? So they would automatically start salvaging one wreck if focus fire was ON, and all salvage a different wreck if FF is OFF?

Because if you're not referring to aggressive mode, then when you give the command "Engage" to salvage drones, you're giving it for ONE target, so of course they're all going to go there, even if FF is unchecked, you still said "Engage" on one wreck.

Actually, they won't.. At least that's my experience.
In order to get them to aggressively move between targets, you must not have a wreck targeted. Well, at least not selected as primary target anyway.
Once you launch them, just press your engage key and they will start salvaging any wreck within range.
However, if set to not focus fire,'they will still focus fire,'as they all prioritize the closest target.

Totally agree OP, tough I'd prefer they scrap the current drone control scheme all together and make drones on par with turrets and missiles as primary weapon. The current UI might have been OK 5 years ago but is just horribad today

If it's so damn easy, then why is having this information displayed so much of an issue?
You say it's a simple formula, and that the drones already tell you.

So why is it a problem that it shows this information at the top of the drone window?



That's advanced training. Much like knowing the differences between turrets.
All I want to know is paper DPS.
When it comes to sentry drones, this will tell me which are short and which are long range with enough experience.

If this information isn't important to have, then why list out the information for turrets and other modules on the hud?

Percentage is completely relevant when you can't tell if the drone is damage without locking the drone.
I'm a bit OCD and it's important that my drones are at 100%. If a drone is at 95%, it's hard to tell if it's damage on the drone interface window.
Not a big issue, but a quality of life suggestion.



Just because something makes life easier doesn't mean it's dumbing down or laziness.

If this is an issue with you, then perhaps we need to take away other actions in Eve that make life easier so that we can weed out "lazy" people.

What types of things would this be?

The overview - You're being lazy if you want an easy and well organized list of items based on your preferences. You should have to select and lock targets in the game window.

Short-cut buttons - You should have to click all the buttons on the selected item window. No more f1 or control click, or anything else.

Grouping - No more drone groups, weapon stacks, people groups (even based off standing), no bookmark groups.. Nothing

No information on fitting window - You should be forced to click "show info" on your ship to know how much CPU/PG you have remaining, you should have to click "show info" on any turret or module in order to find out any information.

No more hover info - Whether on hud or fitting window, you should have to click "show info" in order to get any information related to modules, including turret range and having to do the math to determine group dps.

No more math done for you - Even bonuses and skills won't display their effect on a module. You will have to gather all the information and figure out how to do all the math yourself.

No agent finder, no people locators, no system info on top left including sec status, must probe down everything in game including stations and gates, no displaying of shield/armor/hull/cap information on your ship or the targeted ship, no distance indicator on target...

Basically, lets make everything extremely difficult because YOU don't agree with making anything else easier.

What I'm getting at here is, you're basically saying no because the word exists.
Read my earlier comments in relation to this.

What is it in Eve that you enjoy doing the most?
Now, lets take away everything that makes that task easier because it has nothing to do with quality of life, convenience, or anything else that makes people continue to want to play Eve and has everything to do with you being Lazy.
Am I right??

They do improve the game by making it user friendly.
And my argument isn't that you want to make Eve harder, but instead I was stating if you're going to argue that it makes the game too easy, then perhaps we need to revert all the things I suggested, as they all make Eve easier than anything I have suggested here.

As far as my OCD, everyone has their preferences.
Some like to have all their turrets grouped, some prefer 2 groups of 3, 3 groups of 2, some don't groups their turrets.
How is allowing me the ability to display drone HP % any different, and how does it break the game?

You know what; how do any of these suggestions break the game?
3 of 4 make it marginally easier, and the 4th is only a change on an automated system to make it perform better when automated.
It's like using a permanent marker on a dry erase board.. Sure, it works just fine and can be cleaned off, but why would you make something simple so unnecessarily difficult?

Now, as far as your suggestion on none of my ideas adding "fun" to the game.

1) no, they don't. However, they get the tedium out of the way, such as having to math out of show info and having to independently swap between drones and wrecks to get them to salvage separately. This allows you to enjoy other parts of the game as opposed to managing these aspects.

2) if I had come on here suggesting something that does add "fun" to the game, such as a new ship class or module, you'd be in here asking what role, niche, or need it fills that is currently an issue.
So, a player can't come on to the forums and suggest something "fun" because it's not needed.
A player cannot come and suggest something that is needed because it's not "fun" or others state nothing new needs to be added.
Then, you can't suggest quality of life improvements because it makes Eve too easy and is no fun.

What not fun is having to micromanage different aspects that are deemed "easy" and quality of life is thrown out the window.

most of the OP is just quality of life. Just like it was QoL when they added the infobar above prop mods to see speed with it on. or range of different mods by hovering over them.

Honestly, you became one of my favorite people to argue with here because you used to argue the points of your suggestions. Lately, however, you've stopped doing that, instead focusing on how bad those who tell you no are.

I don't say no to suggestions unless I actually think they're bad ideas. If I see a suggestion I agree with, as rare as that occurs, I say so. If I have no opinion on a suggestion, which happens a lot more often, then I say nothing. I'm pretty sure a lot of the people who post here do the same thing.


There's a lot about this game I find annoying, but just because I find it so doesn't mean it needs to be changed. PI, mining, building stuff is all annoying as hell to me. Rather than try to change the things Imdon't like that other people do enjiy, I simply don't do any of it.