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Is it worth the train
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Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-09-22 04:18:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Lane Wyeth-VII
Shortly after joining eve on my main who is yet to be a year old I trained up my stealth bomber skills (5 months ago to be exact) and today I stumbled upon a offline pos and blew up about 200M isk worth of space junk (also being one of my first killmails where i wasnt the one on the victims box)

After 5 months I finally put the skills to a use, would i say the training was worth it, i personally wouldnt.

So now that question is moved on to you

What skills have you spent so long on training up and then when you finally used it was either disappointed with the results or never even used after training it (like training up leadership and never being the fleet leader)
NovaCat13
Ember Interstellar Inc.
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#2 - 2015-09-22 08:12:12 UTC
It haunts my every waking moment...

But seriously I could go on for days, but I've been playing so long that I'm sure to accumulate more skills I'll rarely use.

Just say NO to Dailies
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2015-09-22 17:18:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
NovaCat13 wrote:
It haunts my every waking moment...

Ouch. Expected Defender Missile 5. Several people have made the same mistake as you.

There is a whole thread on skills NOT to train to level 5.

I can't say I regret any skill I've trained, as I only train skills that improve my EXISTING gameplay.
Hochopepa
Creative Research and Production Services
#4 - 2015-09-24 16:18:24 UTC
Fighter bombers 5
All of my Amarr skills (ships and lazors)
Moon Dogg
Thirtyplus
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-09-24 17:57:16 UTC
I'm currently on a quest to complete as many skill categories as possible. As you can imagine, I've had to train some painful skills to get that done. Out of those, the following were probably the worst in terms of time spent and actual usefulness:
- Fighter Bombers 5 (doesn't fly supers)
- Fighters 5 (meh, at least I can fly a carrier)
- Drug Production 5 (was going to set up for space meth, never did)
- Outpost Construction (soooo long, probably never use this)
- Basically anything beyond level 4 in Trade (was going to start doing some station trading, laziness won)


http://eveboard.com/pilot/Moon_Dogg
Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#6 - 2015-09-24 19:45:05 UTC
Many skills I thought were rubbish, and many prob are but at 208mil sp I am currently just thinking, meh; i'll train them all anyway so would prob end up with it at some point anyway.

who would not want a char with titan lvl 5, carrier 5, dread 5 and want to polish it off with mining upgrades lvl 5 and scordite processing lvl 5? totally go together lol.
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-09-25 19:02:28 UTC
Xtreem wrote:
Many skills I thought were rubbish, and many prob are but at 208mil sp I am currently just thinking, meh; i'll train them all anyway so would prob end up with it at some point anyway.

who would not want a char with titan lvl 5, carrier 5, dread 5 and want to polish it off with mining upgrades lvl 5 and scordite processing lvl 5? totally go together lol.


I immediately imagine someone in a titan just mining away and a supercarrier behind him using 10 t2 mining drones
Lane Wyeth-VII
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-09-25 19:04:20 UTC
Hochopepa wrote:
Fighter bombers 5
All of my Amarr skills (ships and lazors)

That really hurts considering Im part way through the amarr train now...

Well now i get to look forward to regret
The Asteroid
Fuel Blocks for Dante
#9 - 2015-09-26 05:43:22 UTC
Heavy Drones V. Aside from geckos, they are meh.
Banedon Runestar
R3PC0N Tech. Industries
Phoenix Stars
#10 - 2015-09-30 19:32:16 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
NovaCat13 wrote:
It haunts my every waking moment...

Ouch. Expected Defender Missile 5. Several people have made the same mistake as you.

There is a whole thread on skills NOT to train to level 5.

I can't say I regret any skill I've trained, as I only train skills that improve my EXISTING gameplay.


Where is that thread? I'm not seeing anything recent or stickied.
Walter Pryst
Pryst Services Corp
#11 - 2015-10-13 01:04:08 UTC
How about tactical shield manipulation? I know training to the lower levels can be helpful in some cases, but level 5 is a lot of training for an actual debug (unless you always active shield tank)

You can call me Walt
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2015-10-13 19:05:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Banedon Runestar wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
NovaCat13 wrote:
It haunts my every waking moment...

Ouch. Expected Defender Missile 5. Several people have made the same mistake as you.

There is a whole thread on skills NOT to train to level 5.

I can't say I regret any skill I've trained, as I only train skills that improve my EXISTING gameplay.


Where is that thread? I'm not seeing anything recent or stickied.

First two I found:
Which skills should NOT ever be trained to Level 5 ???
Skils You Refuse to Train to V

Also:
Skills You Regret Training
'Useless' Skills?

Beware that some skill comments are outdated, as the skills have been changed since the postings. Example: Industrial Construction
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-12-10 17:50:09 UTC
At 51 million SP I don't regret anyting other than Armor Layering trained to 1, which ruins my ramming ability by 5%.

I expect everything else to be useful.
LordOdysseus
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#14 - 2015-12-11 00:59:14 UTC
I am a firm believer in "delayed gratification" when it comes to skill training.

However,I have to confess that it was a bit of a shock for me when the Jump Fatigue was implemented before I could finish all the carrier support skills. I loved the Jump Fatigue,don't get me wrong but I expected the Jump Reactivation Delay be allowed to pushed aside or ignored for the first 3-4 jumps and after that preventing the player to jump for a long while(making it similar to overheating a module). At least that is how I would implement the system.

Other than that,the recent Gila and the earlier Ishtar drone normalization made me ponder why I maxed out the drone skills.

And don't worry,if a skill is truly redundant ; CCP will most likely remove it and refund the skillpoints.

"CCP is like a ship,with a hole in the bottom,leaking water and my job is to get the ship pointed in the right direction." - Hilmar Veigar Pétursson
Kaska Iskalar
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-12-15 11:10:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaska Iskalar
Lane Wyeth-VII wrote:
Shortly after joining eve on my main who is yet to be a year old I trained up my stealth bomber skills (5 months ago to be exact) and today I stumbled upon a offline pos and blew up about 200M isk worth of space junk (also being one of my first killmails where i wasnt the one on the victims box)

After 5 months I finally put the skills to a use, would i say the training was worth it, i personally wouldnt.

So now that question is moved on to you

What skills have you spent so long on training up and then when you finally used it was either disappointed with the results or never even used after training it (like training up leadership and never being the fleet leader)

Stealth bombers are awesome. You're doing it wrong.

Lane Wyeth-VII wrote:
Xtreem wrote:
Many skills I thought were rubbish, and many prob are but at 208mil sp I am currently just thinking, meh; i'll train them all anyway so would prob end up with it at some point anyway.

who would not want a char with titan lvl 5, carrier 5, dread 5 and want to polish it off with mining upgrades lvl 5 and scordite processing lvl 5? totally go together lol.


I immediately imagine someone in a titan just mining away and a supercarrier behind him using 10 t2 mining drones

You're thinking of Chribba.
Tam Arai
Mi Pen Rai
#16 - 2015-12-17 13:45:13 UTC
my first toon has some mining and industrial skills that I never use now

but at the same time, when I started, it's how I earned my first millions of isk. i was running lv3 missions and mined enough to build my first raven to run lv4s
Hulk Miner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-12-20 12:08:41 UTC
NovaCat13 wrote:
It haunts my every waking moment...

But seriously I could go on for days, but I've been playing so long that I'm sure to accumulate more skills I'll rarely use.


To be fair the description that was used for this skill was very misleading.
Blinky Jimmy
Irreducibly Insane
Salty..
#18 - 2015-12-26 05:38:15 UTC
I regret minmatar t3d V on a 17m sp toon. Oh, how I regret it
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
#19 - 2016-01-01 10:02:06 UTC
Heavy Drones
Medium Drones
Sentry Drones
Small Drones
with my "Super Carrier only" char
412nv Yaken
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2016-01-16 12:59:53 UTC
The Asteroid wrote:
Heavy Drones V. Aside from geckos, they are meh.


Aye? Ogre II's are OP

A True Champion of High Security Space
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