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Joint Bank Accounts - Come on CCP this is something we deserve.
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Samuel the Terrible
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-10-11 11:48:43 UTC
Hi guys,

Idea I am on a daily basis having to transfer isk between my toons and it is a painful process especially if you give the wrong amount. I wish there was an easier way to do it.


You might say make your own corporation put your pilots in it and give them permissions, well why can't I have a bank account for my toons.


SO i thought about it how we could do:
AttentionBank accounts for eve accounts all toons on the account have one bank sheared between them account instead of one each toon, but this doesn't allow to keep a toon septate for security reasons not to mention I can't link alts on my other accoutns

But why not a system kind of like the mailing list. For example I create a bank account at my local office, it has similar permissions to that of a mailing list, I put toons in it that I want in it. and instead of having separate accounts they are all merged into one! Now any toon that gets isk puts it into the account automaticly ( if you have it setup in that regard) otherwise you have your own private wallet and can manually add to the sheared bank account. Any toon on the bank account could take isk.


Seems simple enough so please do it CCP

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2015-10-11 12:02:50 UTC
In essence a corporation?

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Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-10-11 12:13:42 UTC
Given that you could also set up an 'eve investment bank' with this proposed system (so long as withdrawal permissions are also toggle-able) then this proposal is actually very 'EVE'.

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-10-11 14:02:42 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
In essence a corporation?

No.

This is an idea that has been suggested so many times it's not even funny, of all the QoL improvements they've done over recent years this would have been one of the biggest. Maybe it's compl;icated, no idea, but it would be so helpful.

So many +1s

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2015-10-11 14:56:38 UTC
I'd be happy enough with one bank account on one account, but not the mailing list where multiple accounts can share isk. You can set up a corp for that.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2015-10-11 15:34:26 UTC
Not really caring either way so just some random thoughts.

Wondering if you find transferring ISK between characters confusing and difficult how do you handle all the significantly more complex tasks that the game requires?

Since you can do these things already within the player corp mechanic how and why is this a better idea?
And just in case you are wondering the answer is yes I think having this ability should require you to be in a player corp and subject to war decs.
Samuel the Terrible
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-10-12 01:22:01 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Not really caring either way so just some random thoughts.

Wondering if you find transferring ISK between characters confusing and difficult how do you handle all the significantly more complex tasks that the game requires?

Since you can do these things already within the player corp mechanic how and why is this a better idea?
And just in case you are wondering the answer is yes I think having this ability should require you to be in a player corp and subject to war decs.


It's not confusing but when you do it 50 odd times a day it is annoying.


I am not looking at a corp, i have toons that make money in incursions I have toons that suside gank I have toons that haul putting them in a corp would be a bad idea. not to mention I am parts of multiple corps for different things so it isnt possible.



its just a quality of life thing

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Alkain Highwind
Players vs. EVE
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-10-12 01:22:50 UTC
My name is Kain, and I support this Idea.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-10-12 05:12:23 UTC
Speculating, I'd guess the reason it hasn't been done is 'ownership' issues, of a similar ilk to why you can't have multiple people on a single ship.

If it is possible, I'd +1 it.

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Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#10 - 2015-10-12 09:06:24 UTC
I am assuming this has to do with a lot of the legacy code.

Blizzard did this with WoW, but only after creating the code for Diablo 3 (D3 though an awesome game was more of a beta test ***** for Blizzards love child, and still is)

People have asked for account related things for years, but IMO, CCP ether A) has no clue how to do it with out breaking everything else, or B) can't read the legacy code as it isn't in any know language. Look at the jump clone thing installment bug. It wasn't a planned feature, but showed up due to the fact that someone messed with the code.

WoW - though never fully rewritten from the ground up as a whole, was rewritten chunk by chunk (spoke to a number of developers on this subject back when I played) and is now supporting modern programming language.
EVE is a python 2.7 program... The main issue I hear from smarter people is, Python 3.0 series is that it lacks many of the functional aspects of 2.7. So this is probably another major issue with updating EVE.

TL:DR system is to old and to complex to mess with - most likely would reset the server and delete all back up data that isn't stored on 5 and 1/2 floppy disk.

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Samuel the Terrible
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-10-12 19:56:18 UTC
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I am assuming this has to do with a lot of the legacy code.

Blizzard did this with WoW, but only after creating the code for Diablo 3 (D3 though an awesome game was more of a beta test ***** for Blizzards love child, and still is)

People have asked for account related things for years, but IMO, CCP ether A) has no clue how to do it with out breaking everything else, or B) can't read the legacy code as it isn't in any know language. Look at the jump clone thing installment bug. It wasn't a planned feature, but showed up due to the fact that someone messed with the code.

WoW - though never fully rewritten from the ground up as a whole, was rewritten chunk by chunk (spoke to a number of developers on this subject back when I played) and is now supporting modern programming language.
EVE is a python 2.7 program... The main issue I hear from smarter people is, Python 3.0 series is that it lacks many of the functional aspects of 2.7. So this is probably another major issue with updating EVE.

TL:DR system is to old and to complex to mess with - most likely would reset the server and delete all back up data that isn't stored on 5 and 1/2 floppy disk.


I could understand that, on more than one occasion I have seen them say that something was to complex or not understood by the current team and therefore hasn't been a realistic goal but i can dream right?

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Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#12 - 2015-10-12 21:30:38 UTC
+1 Good idea.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-10-12 21:38:26 UTC
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I am assuming this has to do with a lot of the legacy code.

Maybe. But **** it you know, if the game designed with players using alts in mind this should have been a thing from day one. Never too lateSmile

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2015-10-13 01:03:11 UTC
Ix Method wrote:
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I am assuming this has to do with a lot of the legacy code.

Maybe. But **** it you know, if the game designed with players using alts in mind this should have been a thing from day one. Never too lateSmile


IIRC, the extra character slots on the accounts were created so you could still play if you put a character in your biomass queue.
Atomeon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-10-13 01:09:42 UTC
What will happen when you sell a toon from the account? It will be at that shared Bank? Keep that in mind too.
Samuel the Terrible
Doomheim
#16 - 2015-10-13 02:37:44 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Ix Method wrote:
Amarisen Gream wrote:
I am assuming this has to do with a lot of the legacy code.

Maybe. But **** it you know, if the game designed with players using alts in mind this should have been a thing from day one. Never too lateSmile


IIRC, the extra character slots on the accounts were created so you could still play if you put a character in your biomass queue.



Yes but as we all know about eve things are always changing based on what the players do, and intact I don't think CCP ever though they would have people with 10+ toons but there are so this is a feature that should be bought in!

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Samuel the Terrible
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-10-13 02:38:39 UTC
Atomeon wrote:
What will happen when you sell a toon from the account? It will be at that shared Bank? Keep that in mind too.


Well its a good scam opportunity, if you sell a toon you have to be in an NPC corp, you have to do this you have to do that. And if you dont you get screwed YOUR FAULT!

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