Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not suggesting the removal of bumping. I am suggesting as an option: a structure that would "tag" an eligible ship and any "behavior restricting" be made suspect (also as an option), because of "that tag" placed on that ship in that system during that time of day.

Im actually more interested in discovering content.

I like the idea of having a device or structure that places a tag on an eligible ship, and then any physical action against that ship restricting movement would be made suspect - as an idea.

I didn't come to "Features and Ideas" to whine. I came here to discover new content, and discuss ideas. People who enjoy the game "as is" - fine, play the game "as is". However with new changes being made regarding structures (next spring?), I thought adding in one more small one would be intriguing.

How does flying a freighter make somebody "good" at the game, or people who try to gank freighters? I have NO involvement with freighters or ganking whatsoever. I am simply a humble mission runner, PVEer, part-time Orca pilot, that's all. I don't even mine.

Whatever you say, you're still asking for a mechanics change, restricting the gameplay of some kind of players. Also, it will make nothing riskier, bumper will just have 1-3 logistics ships following around, and nothing will change for the wealthy/organized gankers. (But i predict incoming shitstorm from every non-ganker penalized by what you're suggesting.)


Still smell awfully like whining? Also, what's the relationship between bumping restrictions and new structures?


Because "approching someone too fast gives suspect status" is not a direct restriction on the bumping gameplay necessary to ganking?



Then why are you so hell-bent on having bumpers go suspect? Also, as said before, CCP expressly told that bumping was allowed as a legitimate gameplay, and it's not an offensive action, so there is still no reason to make people go suspect for that. Should it be considered an illegitimate action, it should make you criminal in high-sec, thus concordokened. And don't worry, i'll be sure to park a ship right in front of Jita undock, ready to get bumped and loot everything that'll get spilled that way.

If you want risk for bumpers, kill them. Do it yourself, today, right now, rather than wanting Someone(TM) to do Something(TM) about it for you.

My comment was posted as a simply rely to one made by Daichi Yamato, please review those and rethink.
His comment was that CCP should make bumping and ganking easier, I simply pointed out the fact that CCP disagrees with that point of view an we know that to be true because CCP has never done anything to make ganking easier.

Leads me to wonder about you, and why you chose to inject something into my post that was not there to start with?

If you want to make it riskier for gankers at gates in High Sec try this approach.

Place a Micro Mobile Jump Unit 15km away from the gate in the direct path of all NPC stations and other gates.

A normal autopilot warps the ship to 15km away from the gate for safety reasons. Once the pilot lands they will automatically be in the range, 5,000km activation range, of the MMJU as soon as they land and can activate the MMJU right away to be warped 100km away from the gate where they can then proceed with their haul.

If the ganker tries to bump the ship while the MMJU is being activated the bump will throw the ship in a random direction making it nearly impossible for the ganker to align and then use the MMJU to jump to the ship.

Even if the ship is not bumped the ganker will still have some difficulty in aligning perfectly with the same vector that the targeted ship did and could end up 50 to 100 km away from the ship even though the ganker appears to be on the same vector as the targeted ship.

Nope. A tag would be placed on the ship by a structure - placed in high traffic locations, different times of day as needed. Anybody trying to restrict that ship at a particular time at a particular place would be made suspect. Just an example how to make things riskier for gankers - people who target those ships in particular at those particular places at particular times.

Basically forcing a portion of the playerbase to change the time of day they get to play EvE, just so you can autopilot your freighter through Uedama and Niarja risk free.

How would you feel if CCP came out with a rule that said younweren't able to play the game the way you wanted to during the only time of day you're able to be online to play?

In a debate it matters less who brings up a topic than it does that the topic was brought up at all.
In this case your sentence clearly suggests(even if you intended sarcasm) that CCP has attempted in any way to prohibit bumping and ganking. This is a bad road to go down for discussions like this because it has no validity. I merely outlined that CCP is more interested in maintaining risk/reward even for activities such as ganking and thus consideration should be given to this fact for future points in the discussion.

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To the idea behind structures being tossed around.. Its not exactly unprecedented.
In nullsec we have mobile cyno inhibitors. These work much in the same way you want a highsec version to work. They dont stop "local help" but sure as heck stop the "hammer of god" from helping.

The question is cost ratios and if you really want highsec to be opened up to that level of warfare.
To cost the structure cant be to inexpensive or it will be abused. This is eve.. we'd abuse a chicken sandwich if we could.
With that extra cost comes the problem of limiting gankers to more expensive targets. This might not be optimal to their play style if that "expensive target" becomes insanely rare.

The other side of the coin is that you will be exposing the "safe" space to a mechanic that allows engagement without consent and possibly with little to no penalties(depending on the idea being referenced). Would highsec players actually enjoy this style of gameplay? Even if, like MCyno Inhibs, you could engage and destroy the "threat structure" before it activated or simply warp off grid to escape it?