EVE New Citizens Q&A

I see a lot of statistic on isk per hr but most of them are not true for new players or they are too old to be correct.Can someone tell me some way to make >40 mil per hr in null or high sec (2.5 mil sp char). Thank you

You can come close to that, if you offensive plex in FW. Can easily be done with a 2,5M char, if you have PvP skills.

Anyway, my advice on this issue is however, that you always just want to do what you enjoy. If you play the game purely for ISK, you will eventually burn out. The PvE content in this game is really not that impressive, and ISK grinding with no goal or enjoyment will make you hate your life :D

I just want to second some of the sentiments above by saying that you can easily turn this game into a job if you want to. It's a game and the whole point of a game is to have fun.

If you are doing something in game just to earn isk then that is by definition a job. I personally feel that the best isk / hour is earned by working some overtime in your RL job and buying PLEX to sell for isk. If you are busting your ass in game to earn the isk to buy a PLEX every month then this game is a job for you.

If you are doing it because you don't have a job and thus can't afford to play then might I suggest that your time spent in game might be better spent looking for one.

You could cut your neighbor's grass once a week during the summer and easily be able to pay for a one year sub and still have money left over to buy a few PLEX to sell.

I'm not saying that you should go that route I'm just trying to put some perspective on this.

I spend roughly an hour a week/character tending my PI and perhaps an hour a month harvesting it. In exchange for 5 hours work I get a bit more than 200 million worth of P2 - which works out to 40 mil/hour. That's in highsec with relatively poor planets but with good skills I can keep 2 advanced processors busy on each planet. Since it is passive income, you can have 3 characters doing PI on 1 account.

In my case, those characters are also inventing and manufacturing - adding value to raw materials that I realize on the market. It only takes a few minutes to submit jobs or market orders - after that they pretty much take care of themselves. I've never calculated ISK /hour but my wallet tells me it's pretty good.

OP, there' a few things you must realise.


- lots of people brag about their income, they lie. Partially to look intelligent, partially to have a story for how they got that cash while in reality they sold a plex for it


- it's not necessarily about skill points but much more so about understanding. Someone who knows what he's going (which doesn't automatically come with skill points) can make a lot of money on low SP alts because he'll know how to use & beat the system and his competitors. So someone going "a newbie can make a fortune in FW LOL" isn't really being objective, most of the new characters who do that sort of thing aren't new players at all (even if they pose as such) and while a true newbie COULD make that work as advertised it's going to take quite a lot of brain effort, learning and understanding. Something most (new) players are incapable or unwilling to do, if only because they're not used to an MMO where their brain cells are forced to fire on all cylinders.


- then there's the bit about how you should choose something to do that entertains you, that keeps you interested. If a certain activity makes you a ton of cash but you hate it then what's the point? There is no "must endure before I'm allowed to have fun" concept like most other MMOs employ in order to sell you on boring ****** gameplay. You can, pretty much right from the bat, do a ton of different things and play styles all of which can make you money just fine. There's no reason to turn a game into a job, do what you enjoy regardless of how much money it makes.


With all that in mind and trying to avoid optimum/unrealistic expectations I'd say that a 1-2 month old true newbie should be expected to make 5-10/h with monotonous "work" and 2 or perhaps 3 times as much with a lot of effort, planning and initiative. You COULD make more... or less and as long as you're being entertained it really doesn't matter that much.

buying a plex is your best bet, the prices just now are tilted towards plex sellers more than buyer, you will bore yourself out grinding the current sale price of plex

30 days in I earnt my first billion (1.5b in 3 days) on a completely unskilled new alt. It worked out as about 75m/h but it was very variable, nothing for hours then BAM, 500m all at once.

I sat in trade hubs promising to double people's isk if they would but follow a few simple rules.

There's just as much baiting going on with the isk doubling itself as with convincing people you made money with it.

I think most of what it takes to run at a high isk/hour level has been very clearly stated and documented, but many people probably do just throw out numbers. I also don't think anyone posting sensibly about it is assuming relatively new characters can run at that level either. The burner mission thread has tons of ideas for alternate setups, and there are a number of ways for new players to defeat some of them.

From what I can tell 20m/hour is pretty much low skills and stubborn tactics combining for awful income. I did a test a while back before I trained up my missile skills (although I apparently still only have cruise missiles 3). I was assuming 1000 isk/lp. Although my support and drone skills were pretty advanced. I would assume with heads up play you can beat 20m/hour with pretty low SP. but I can't really say where as I haven't touched that part of the game in a long time.

I think any specific strategy I could come up with would require very specific placement at 2.5mil sp. but a few more general ideas:

my first idea would be to find someone who is running anoms but not looting/salvaging and following them around. maybe even bounce between a few people/systems.

go back to FW. if the people you are hanging out with now aren't helping you achieve your goal why bother?

lv3 blitzing might be an idea. especially if you have access to pirate agents where it looks like you can actually make 3k isk/lp with the right faction. In highsec the agent choice needs to be made carefully, mostly looking for a 0.5 with a good LP store and no lowsec in constellation, or at least not for a few jumps. Although if you have multiple agents in the same station maybe it isn't so bad? been a long time since I focused on 3s. also a MJD as a gtfo button didn't exist. I ran lv3s horribly inefficiently for a long time. And every time I've been back to grind standings I am usually surprised at how easy they can be.

Off hand I would say try scamming - sp is irrelevant and there is no cap on what you can make.