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Some new rephrased Holey questions

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Donna Divine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
#1 - 2015-10-10 22:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Donna Divine
Arrow see my post #7 down in thread for further explanatory rant

I'm throwing the idea out there and asking you to think with me. I phrased my initial post rather dumbly and got responses of equal value. So, i've rephrased down there.


The basic thing i'm thinking of is this: using wh space with very self-limited gameplay options (meaning, no caps, no POS, maybe other limitations too, think with me please) as a medium for living like a vagrant bunch of parasites popping up here and there in K-space, and have fun doing it.

Basically what you'd call traveller folk, dont settle permanently but live outta their trailer somewhere for a while, steal the silver, knock up some daughters, move on. Dont like permanency, so no bubble sticks or sov..

Now i'm a returned ******* with limited WH experience and could use your thoughts.

This is what my family looks like:
dad flies anything gallente or winmatar and hacks, scans, supports and boosts
Mom flies all caldari subcaps, owns a very blingy tengu, scans good too, nearly maxed in EW
Ive got two daughters that trade, haul badgers, salvage, could be taught PI, and/or can serve as safe mobile storage device

Now, for my questions:

Does anyone produce stuff in WH pace in POS that i can annoy with syphons or something?
Does PI pay off? Can i do it for a month and move on? Can i annoy people doing it and make a profit doing that?

Any other suggestions on living out of a hole without using boredom on a stick, hopping in and out to all kinds of K for fun and some explorin maybe?

dont forget to check my rant down there! it explains more.
helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-10-10 22:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: helana Tsero
Donna Divine wrote:
So. i'm wat you'd call traveller folk, i dont settle permanently but live outta my trailer somewhere for a while, steal the silver, knock up some daughters, move on. Dont like permanency, so no bubble sticks for me.

Now im gonna try life in wh space and could use your thoughts.

This is what my family looks like:
dad flies anything gallente or winmatar and hacks, scans, supports and boosts
Mom flies all caldari subcaps, owns a very blingy tengu, scans good too
Ive got two daughters that trade, haul badgers, salvage, could be taught PI, and/or can serve as safe mobile storage device

Now, for my questions:

Do c3's exist with other than sleepers in them? Sleepers bore me already, no shiny silverware in 'm
Is there moon mining i could siphon off off in wh space?
Does PI pay off? Can i do it for a month and move on?
Does a C3 WH exist with a NS static And a or LS or HS static too? Would such a hole be unoccupied and normally remain so for long? If no on the multiple Kspace statics, how common would HS/LS drifting holes be in a c3 with NS static?

Any other suggestions on living out of a hole without using boredom on a stick, hopping in and out to all kinds of K for fun and some explorin maybe?



This is wormhole space.

If you dont have the patience for a google search and a browse of the forum stickys you wont last long in here.

Its not really the space where those who need hand holding survive.

"...ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new.... thats where eve is placed... not in cave."  | zoonr-Korsairs |

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Zechariah Bragg
Jaded.
Riplomacy
#3 - 2015-10-10 22:25:40 UTC
helana Tsero wrote:
This is wormhole space.

If you dont have the patience for a google search and a browse of the forum stickys you wont last long in here.

Its not really the space where those who need hand holding survive.


Wh-space is how eve should have been. It's a more pure form of "sandbox" gotta play the game the way YOU want to play it.

If you don't live in W-Space.....your opinions are invalid.

Donna Divine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
#4 - 2015-10-10 22:37:56 UTC
I agree, which is why after returning from a 5 year pause i decide to go to w space. Its what null used te feel like back in 03
Spruillo
Lord Narg Corporation
#5 - 2015-10-11 04:06:22 UTC
r yur daughters hot?
cause I gotta place

PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM

Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-10-11 05:55:15 UTC
helana Tsero wrote:
This is wormhole space.
If you dont have the patience for a google search and a browse of the forum stickys you wont last long in here.
Its not really the space where those who need hand holding survive.

Could not have put it better myself.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Donna Divine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
#7 - 2015-10-11 09:01:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Donna Divine
Ok, sorry about the silly questions regarding the statics. I've since indeed found a list of all WH systems, and the way statics are distributed.

To answer your thinly veiled elitist sneers: go **** yourself. I lived in nullsec before it had scanning, before warp to zero, before fleets, before POS or even stations, before cloaks and before all that other carebear **** you guys depend on to survive in your cute little black holes. I remember when scanning a hostile BS down at it's safe was done by warping to BM's you made behind it and dropping new BM's in-warp at exactly the right time to land just off-grid of it, then sending your mate in a dual prop cruiser or frig after it and hoping you'd get tackle before he noticed his 500 AU out of system safe wasn't exactly safe. As far as I'm concerned you are ******* carebears living in happypants gummibearland

Sure I could join nullsec blue donut circlejerk alliance #9875 or WH C4/5/6 farmer corp #5674938 and make my life easy but ******* boring, but I won't. I won't have that much time to play, and the last thing I need is to have space feel like it's 'easy', cause i'll just end back up ship spinning for three hours before sleep and work because win doctrines, easy travel, having all that information right at hand with all these API's and **** is ******* booring.

Hence my question: envision your life as a homeless familiy in WH-space, and tell me how you'd do it Make it a gritty life, preferably one where you annoy the **** out of others by stealing their **** and raping their daughters, and maybe you'll manage to think up something you'd actually like to try yourself, you smart bittervet people you


/bittervetsmartassmodus

Now, please. It's more of a 'throwing the idea' out there thing. I'm not the min/max type player, achievement or sily skin owning doesn't tickle my dickle, and i've really no interest in space peenage measurement. I want to see wether it's possible to get back to that dark atmosphere Eve once had by voluntarily limiting my gameplay choices. Please, friendly please, think with me.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#8 - 2015-10-11 10:02:31 UTC
Either take a chill pill or check out the forum culture before exploding.

To the lifestyle of the solo wh pirate, you'll just be living off targets you can snatch before their group knows what's going on, your most used ships will most likely be a covops/astero, an interdictor and eventually something like Sleipnirs/Hyperions/Geddons that do some heavy lifting against small gangs or stuff like 100mn tengu/legion to gank bait and bugger off afterwards. You won't strike fear into anyone's heart, just annoy them and run away with their loot.

I could write long paragraphs about solo dwelling immersively here, but if you're into that kind of stuff rather hit me up in game. I'm quite consistently less bad than the people I fight against, but that's about it. Solo dwelling for pvp is one of the harder paths, but it definitely is a viable approach.
Jonn Duune
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#9 - 2015-10-11 19:06:52 UTC
IF you really want to live the life of a nomad WH explorer, here's what I'd suggest:

Train 1 of your daughters to fly an orca

Train mom, pops, and your other daughter to fly t3ds.

Fit up 3 t3ds for pve. This will leave you room to have a salvage destroyer, 2 pvp cruisers, and a scanner in the orca.

Use the orca as a mobile base, find a nice safe spot, cloak up, and sit it there.

Use your t3ds to clear combat sites for isk, or grab the scanner out and do hacking with it.

fly primarily through c2/c3 space running sites as you find them. IF you find something to kill, grab your 2 cruisers, and go ambush it.

In the orca, carry a small tower, some stront, some fuel. If you find a good hole to set up shop in for a couple days, drop the tower, otherwise just stay in the orca at all times.

Orca & Confessor fittings

Now go hold in your hidey hole and bottle up that anger.

My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.

Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-10-11 21:38:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Your question is literally 'is it possible to visit whs for short periods of time?'.
Yes, it is... Would have thought the existence of the forum to be evidence enough but I guess it takes elite status to make that conclusion...

PI is also a functional game mechanic so that probably works too. (i don't do it myself).

PS: no one here cares about or is impressed by your NS history. If anything, I'd keep it to yourself.

There is no Bob.

Stuck In Here With Me:  http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/

Down the Pipe:  http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

Dani Dusette
Division 13
#11 - 2015-10-12 00:18:18 UTC
Donna Divine wrote:
Ok, sorry about the silly questions regarding the statics. I've since indeed found a list of all WH systems, and the way statics are distributed.

To answer your thinly veiled elitist sneers: go **** yourself. I lived in nullsec before it had scanning, before warp to zero, before fleets, before POS or even stations, before cloaks and before all that other carebear **** you guys depend on to survive in your cute little black holes. I remember when scanning a hostile BS down at it's safe was done by warping to BM's you made behind it and dropping new BM's in-warp at exactly the right time to land just off-grid of it, then sending your mate in a dual prop cruiser or frig after it and hoping you'd get tackle before he noticed his 500 AU out of system safe wasn't exactly safe. As far as I'm concerned you are ******* carebears living in happypants gummibearland

Sure I could join nullsec blue donut circlejerk alliance #9875 or WH C4/5/6 farmer corp #5674938 and make my life easy but ******* boring, but I won't. I won't have that much time to play, and the last thing I need is to have space feel like it's 'easy', cause i'll just end back up ship spinning for three hours before sleep and work because win doctrines, easy travel, having all that information right at hand with all these API's and **** is ******* booring.

Hence my question: envision your life as a homeless familiy in WH-space, and tell me how you'd do it Make it a gritty life, preferably one where you annoy the **** out of others by stealing their **** and raping their daughters, and maybe you'll manage to think up something you'd actually like to try yourself, you smart bittervet people you


/bittervetsmartassmodus

Now, please. It's more of a 'throwing the idea' out there thing. I'm not the min/max type player, achievement or sily skin owning doesn't tickle my dickle, and i've really no interest in space peenage measurement. I want to see wether it's possible to get back to that dark atmosphere Eve once had by voluntarily limiting my gameplay choices. Please, friendly please, think with me.

Oh dear.

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#12 - 2015-10-12 00:36:33 UTC
Wow. I would have never thought of that. Never.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2015-10-12 12:50:50 UTC
are either of your daughters of age?

and kawaii?

and asian?

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Spruillo
Lord Narg Corporation
#14 - 2015-10-13 00:32:56 UTC
Jonn Duune wrote:

Fit up 3 t3ds for pve.


Dessy hulls for C2/C3 sleepers?

PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM

Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#15 - 2015-10-13 12:42:14 UTC
better to use t3ds and augs in a shattered hole or a C5/6 WR

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Jonn Duune
OpSec.
Wrong Hole.
#16 - 2015-10-13 13:26:12 UTC
Spruillo wrote:
Jonn Duune wrote:

Fit up 3 t3ds for pve.


Dessy hulls for C2/C3 sleepers?



You should be able to solo c2s with that fit. and 3 of those *should* be able to take on c3s, haven't tested it though. I may one day though

My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.

Borsek
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2015-10-14 10:53:03 UTC
So far OP has been respectful and since he merely seeks information not available by checking stickies and or googling, has not told everyone to **** off, and is modest about his (**** poor and irrelevant) achievements, I think this thread is going places.

Maybe next time you won't act like an actual member of a homeless family, OP.
Spruillo
Lord Narg Corporation
#18 - 2015-10-14 11:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Spruillo
Just drop a tower a few lazers and ewar in any old wh and set up camp. Things get too crowded and shooty wait till they go to bed pack it up and move on. Or even just leave it all since if you win at eve like us you made 20 gagillion ISK/hr and can buy all new stuff straight from jita sells without flinching. You do win at EVE like us don't you?

The 1 thing you MUST remember.. WSpace local. It's there for a reason use it. Troll 24/7 till you move on
I like to use 5 year old npc corp scout alts with like 300k sp for this.

I use google translate and paste things in russian like I COME FOR TO THE PPV AND KILL YUR MOTHERS UNCLE DOG .

P.S. Ive got plenty more authentic russian trash talk like that, they get real pissy when they wake up anda deathstar POS is fully online in their front yard.

PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM

Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2015-10-14 13:27:54 UTC
Borsek wrote:
So far OP has been respectful and since he merely seeks information not available by checking stickies and or googling, has not told everyone to **** off, and is modest about his (**** poor and irrelevant) achievements, I think this thread is going places.

Maybe next time you won't act like an actual member of a homeless family, OP.

he has yet to endow me with his daughter

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

GizzyBoy
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#20 - 2015-10-14 13:54:55 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:
Borsek wrote:
So far OP has been respectful and since he merely seeks information not available by checking stickies and or googling, has not told everyone to **** off, and is modest about his (**** poor and irrelevant) achievements, I think this thread is going places.

Maybe next time you won't act like an actual member of a homeless family, OP.

he has yet to endow me with his daughter


amazingly I think he has standards brah..
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