Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I gave my 2cents in an earlier post today in the general discussion thread but I think people are too busy yelling at each other instead of sharing constructive ideas. Let"s get the good ideas out. What I propose is...

- Reduce the size of the whole world by a little less then half. This game no longer has the required amount of players to be that big. This will reduce the amount of stargates and travel time to go anywhere and make exploring the whole thing reachable to a certain extend. It would create an increase in people per system which is more than needed.

- Jump Clone CoolDown has to go down from the 20+ hrs to something more civilize like 9-12hrs depending on skills. Getting real tired to have to stay in Null or travel a lot during the day to get to hisec because I have a fleet in the evening and I would'nt be able to get back in my clone who's located in NULL! Save time for the good stuff.

- We need to bring back the need for Capital ships. Having to use them every now and then but without needing like 20+ of them would be awesome. I'm thinking something like NPC Pirate leaving Wormhole space once in a while and attacking or staging themself 100km from a random station in NULL/LOW or maybe even High sec with capital sized ships. I'm sure people that have those capitals would love to get them out every month or so to kill a few waves of pirates and make a couple milliion isk in the process. This would also create tactital advantages for people wanting to gain SOV or attack a CORP/Alliance.

- Remove skills to Scan/PI/Explo all together. I think those are side activities and should be used as tool to make ISK without having to manage 10 accounts with 3 character on each that trained PI skills for 15$ a toon. Sounds to me like a money racket. Give the players their time back to do other things. yes, some people will abuse this. Yes, some people will continue to have multiple accounts with PI characters but to encourage new players and to allow them to feel like one character or two can do it all without having to spend lots of real life money and time would be a plus for this game. There's plenty more skill to train to go around.

Constructive inputs and ideas welcome.
I'll update with more If I comes up with anything else.

Let's get this thrending! :)

Nerf the t3 ships down to their correct level, Revamp PVE from bottom up to better reward risk and close abuses, revamp moon minerals so that the new moon tower creates a belt that can be mined at the moon, when the new citadels arrive I would phase out null npc stations when the remove null outposts, nerf remote reps when used in large numbers.

I like the idea of removing NPC station out of null. Sounds like a good way to force teamwork in to having and fueling POS in the system you like. You get a like! :)

EDIT: Have and Fuel a Citadel!

And what differentiates NPC Null from Sov Null then? I mean, you have no way at all to increase ADM in NPC space, you do not get fuel reductions because no TCU, you have no anoms and agents in Citadels are a pipe dream with the current CCP... so, the only objective is to remove NPC null sec and a thorn in sov holder's sides?

To the topic: look at my bio.
No, arenas that you have in mind are not fun. At all. We already have arenas: FW plexes and 7500+ huge arenas called star systems. Use them.

ADM is the Activity Defense Multiplier, the indexes of your sov systems that influence the length of the vulnerability window of your sov structures and the length of the entosis link timer for an attack.

If you remove NPC stations from NPC Null sec, it becomes worthless and unmanageable. If you replace them in addition with player citadels, it becomes completely illusory to do anything from this space. Take Venal for instance, or the SOE and Mordus' Angel constellations in Pure Blind. They are jack in the middle or CFC space, all 3 of them harbor major thorns in the sides of the CFC (or people actually providing them with a resemblance of content in their area, but that's apparently in the eye of the beholder). They can do that because they are in stations that cannot be razed by CFC. Their assets are secure from CFC obliteration. Replace these stations with citadels and this is gone. Vaporized. NPC Null sec is not what it is primarily because of the sov in NPC hands that can't be taken over by players; it is what it is because of the stations, which provide players with a leverage to influence sov and stir things up in Sov.

CCP also cannot implement citadels or any new sov structure right. That is impossible due to player behavior. You just need to look at where a large number of players goes when they want to experience sov: they do not venture into it with a small entity and risk something, they seek out CFC in a lot of cases, or the proximity of other big, powerful neighbors. Before Phoebe, it was the 2 renting empires in the east, NA and PL, now it is just CFC. Reason? Because CFC is too big to fail and they can provide security and stability due to their numbers. Citadels favor this behavior by making it easier to put them up and defend them as large entities than as entities such as Venal or MA constellation residents. Without a change in attitude of the players (BL's opinion on Fountain (paraphrased): We obliterate everything that comes into Fountain.), Citadels will be a disastrous thing to own should CFC or NCPL (is there anyone else left that's as big as them?) take a particular interest in your entity. And considering that they do not want to tear each other apart and provide marvelous content, this outlook is not pessimism, it is realism.

Online player numbers certainly are an issue, but in my opinion are neither arenas or citadels in the current political environment a great help. As stated time and again in the respective recent arena thread, they will just draw people out of space into these, where they find PVP without effort, making space even emptier. And what will happen to your citadel once they are implemented was best demonstrated in the recent razing of Providence by CFC. How small entities are supposed to feel encouraged or delighted to put up the these massive, very expensive structures under this prospect, eludes me.
Just to clarify this: this is not entirely the CFC's fault. As much as I loath them, their organization and way to handle things made this kind of development possible and it is a remarkable feat -- and players apparently need this kind of environment judging by the numbers they have and get. The problem is that there is only the CFC being able to do this with the "low" numbers of people playing at the moment and they soak up most liquid players that dabble around in sov or could be interested in sov. The development is highly polarizing with CFC (maybe NCPL) on one side and the rest of the game, a plethora of entities, on the other.

Oh rite on. I knew it had to do with the system index... could'nt find my words for this acronym. :)

Good point on the PVE part of thing. I think this game lacks mobility, therefore the problem of making teamwork happen. The distance between everything in EVE is a problem in my opinion. You can have 20 corpmate in corp chat that would join you for some missioning in HighSec but are stock 30 jumps away from you and therefore will more than likely not do the trip. Also why I think jump clone cooldown needs to be lowered.

What would make the game harder or just orient people into teamwork you think?

Where do you think the Imperium is going to store its war supplies, in a vulnerable Citadel or in an invulnerable NPC station? You cant leave NPC stations in null as they will simply be abused by the very powerblocks you want to hinder.

This is most likely to happen. However, if even you store your assets in NPC stations, the most powerful, most populous, most coherent entity in the game, how are other people supposed to rely completely on citadels in the middle of your space. If not even you want to take the risk of storing tons of assets in a citadel; someone who can take thousands of players from their home across the universe, raze a region, and come back home where nothing happened; how are entities in the middle of this humongous pool of sharks with 100 times less people supposed to stay there and risk all their assets? As long as most players know nothing else but to use total obliteration in whatever scenario imaginable, I do not believe that the removal of of NPC stations in NPC Null is a great choice.

Markets are already removed from outposts with the introduction of citadels. Limited hangar space is something highly abusable, especially in areas like Venal or Pure Blind.

A lot of the above points will be addressed at CCP Vegas - just read the developer blogs and news.

Things I would love to see

1: change subscription fees to 10$ a month.
2: PLEX would be worth 50 days of account game time.
3: charge 7.50$ a month for multi-character training
4: PLEX would offer 50-75 days of multi-character training if used for it.
(Real money gets the better benefit vs PLEXing)

5: introduce a new pirate faction (Caldari/minni) that is immune to the effects of webs and the MWD turn off of a scram. Maybe make this resistant to most forms of ewar. Projectile weapon platform. Maybe more of a combat/support line of ships. Maybe the Caldari bonus could be to the range of a anti-ewar field (for ewar to work, it would have to be within optimal range). The ships limits would be hp, and capacitor. I feel it would fit well in the upcoming changes to ewar - were a lot of ewar is getting optimal/fallout ranges. As it would count ships fitting with ewar that they are not bonuses for would be near worthless, unless in a brawling set up. I am also a fan of kitchen sink fleets, which I believe a family of ships like this would promote (fly what you wanna fly, not what the F1 Lead monkey tells you)