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CCP doesn't ban isk sellers?

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Aerasia
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2015-10-11 01:45:08 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Breaks the rules, then tells CCP about others breaking the rules. ShockedStraightLol

Pure genius. Lol

"Hey players: You can trust me from personal experience that CCP doesn't ban RMT. You don't have anything to worry about, especially if you buy from the reputable ISK sellers available at any local neighborhood Jita".
Glathull
Warlock Assassins
#42 - 2015-10-11 04:01:43 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:
BigBill wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Breaks the rules, then tells CCP about others breaking the rules. ShockedStraightLol

Pure genius. Lol


I don't plan to use the isk. CCP are free to do what they want with it. Just odd that they choose to do nothing.
CCP IS free...not are....CCP is ONE corporation, not two or more. Two or more - plural. One - singular. We may be dumb in some parts, but we do know subject/verb agreement.

That being said. This is really flakey. Like the guy said, you break the rules then rat on someone for breaking the rules. What saintly deed was done here? What's odder is you come in here and tell the world about it. Now, the world has this indelible impression that YOU left it...not they/or them. World is singular. There may be a lot of people ON It, but there still is only one.

You wouldn't say "The World ARE..." stop saying CCP ARE....geez.


Oh good christ. This trollopsism again.

Listen, this is how it works:

There are legitimate differences in how standard U.S. English and standard British English work.

It has nothing to do with your stupid idea about what you think seems to be correct. It has everything to do with custom.

Let's not forget that many of our better customs came from the British, and the Germans before that, and the blah and the blah before all that.


There are legitimate reasons to think of a corporation as either a singular or a plural noun.

Most of the time, we, in the U.S., think of a corporation as a single entity. But we don't always. The fact that others think of it grammatically as a collection of people isn't something to call out as stupid.

Hey, maybe there's even a lesson there to be learned. Perhaps we should spend a bit less time thinking of corps as individual people.

Regardless, you can read any usage manual you can shake a stick at, and it will tell you . . . what? That in the U.S., we do things a certain way some times.


No usage dictionary talks about or prescribes a usage coming from other modes of speech and makes a claim of rightness about them.

So pardon me if I tell you to go have your way with yourself. You don't know jack diddle about how dictionaries are made. Nor about how they ought to be read.

I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#43 - 2015-10-11 05:18:30 UTC
Inspector Clouseau bought the drugs only so he could arrest the dealer.


Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#44 - 2015-10-11 09:39:53 UTC
Simple "I did it, he did it", isnt enough. They must find evidence.

If they do not find it, they can do nothing.
ImYourMom
Retribution Holdings Corp
Retribution.
#45 - 2015-10-11 10:16:41 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Great job there, Captain Misguided Do-Gooder


What's your problem? What he says is true. There are isk sellers still selling isk after ccp ban or removes the isk fromm the buyers. They don't seem to ban the sellers which is very very dubious. I strongly believe that ccp don't ban them so they can set up the people buying them and catch them. They know who the the sellers are so all they need to do is more monitor themy and easily catch the buyers.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#46 - 2015-10-11 11:56:38 UTC
ImYourMom wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Great job there, Captain Misguided Do-Gooder


What's your problem? What he says is true. There are isk sellers still selling isk after ccp ban or removes the isk fromm the buyers. They don't seem to ban the sellers which is very very dubious. I strongly believe that ccp don't ban them so they can set up the people buying them and catch them. They know who the the sellers are so all they need to do is more monitor themy and easily catch the buyers.



The problem is that this sleuthing NPC alt non-entity broke CCP's rules himself in pursuit of supposedly defending those rules (and then publicly announced that he'd done just that).

They do indeed ban ISK sellers, but (rightly) they don't always publicise it - usually in order to cast a wide a net as possible and remove as much of the RMT network as they can at one time (as you say). They appear to be much more concerned with catching and removing the sellers than punishing the buyers, though of course they do indeed punish the buyers. Buyer punishment appears to be far more lenient than seller punishment.

The fact that they don't run around screaming "Hey guys, we've just banned 20k ISK peddlers!" (though this did occasionally manifest itself in QEN/CCP announcements) doesn't necessarily mean that they're not doing anything.


Were you around pre-2010? Jita local was still unreadable, but instead of contract scams it was full of people hawking ISK in OOG sites. Now, there's absolutely nothing like that at all. Seems to me that CCP are indeed operating, albeit opaquely.

Black swans, epistemology, and all that.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#47 - 2015-10-11 20:07:49 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
BigBill wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Breaks the rules, then tells CCP about others breaking the rules. ShockedStraightLol

Pure genius. Lol


I don't plan to use the isk. CCP are free to do what they want with it. Just odd that they choose to do nothing.



because there's little point in CCP banning the "bag man" and alerting the person behind it by eliminating one of his disposable mules. They want to investigate the whole supply chain, and the forensics of that take some time.

Anyway, good job on breaking the EULA and then tipping off your supplier that CCP are investigating him. No, really: top marks.

His heart was in the right place, cut him some slack.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#48 - 2015-10-11 20:26:10 UTC
Plot twist:

OP asks for "full disclosure."

GM comes back with "thanks for the heads-up, OP. We have now banned your competition. And you."
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-10-11 20:41:22 UTC
Will the OP get ban? I know CCP will remove the isk, but wonder if he gets a ban too... Lol

This is hilarious and yet quite sad...

Been around since the beginning.

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#50 - 2015-10-11 21:23:04 UTC
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
His heart was in the right place, cut him some slack.



If his heart was truly in the right place, he would've done what he did and then just quietly petitioned CCP to inform them as to what had happened...not whining about it on the forum, attention seeking.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#51 - 2015-10-11 21:31:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
His heart was in the right place, cut him some slack.
Breaking the EULA is breaking the EULA, regardless of the original intent.

The only people that are allowed to break the rules we have to abide by with regards to RMT are CCP themselves, the RMT clause in the EULA only works one way. I have no doubt that Team Security probably rank quite highly on the ISK buyers scoreboard.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#52 - 2015-10-11 22:15:00 UTC
OP was "dating" a "girl" he met on EvE.

It was cute and sweet.

After 2 days of an incredibly heavy text-filled relationship about what both parties would do to each other, Girlfriend makes her financial plight known, hoping not to scare away this love interest.

OP, being valiant and noble, states he could not let this damsel remain in distress. Girlfriend acknowledges the sentiment of OP's charity but cannot accept it all without reciprocation due to her moral upbringing. Instead offers to exchange a "fair" amount of ISK for OP's dollars.

OP buys 6 billion isk for $100 to help his Girlfriend pay her rent so she wont end up homeless and unable to chat with him on steam messenger and tell him all the really interesting things she wants to do to him. OP is happy, girlfriend is happy. The happiness is culminated in a steamy chat session where imaginations are fulfilled.

The next day, Girlfriend lets it slip that he's actually a dude. OP is a bigot and hates gays(understandably of course) and angry that he let himself be conned by a guy pretending to be a girl who was obviously just preying on his vulnerabilities in an effort to secure an ISK buyer.

OP is mad.

OP is getting revenge on his "ex-gf" by constantly reporting to CCP that he bought ISK from his ex to get him banned.

And here we all are.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#53 - 2015-10-12 00:50:26 UTC
Quote:

Forum rules

22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.

Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.



File a petition about it. The forum is not an appropriate venue for this.

Thread closed.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

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