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Dev blog: Testing a new EVE Launcher

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Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#261 - 2015-10-10 09:20:51 UTC
CCP Snorlax wrote:
Sisi should be available again through the beta launcher now - there was a minor issue on the backend.


it's working ok.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#262 - 2015-10-10 09:32:42 UTC
I know I'm going to be that person, but is there any estimate on when an OS X version will be out?

/em puppy eyes

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CCP Snorlax
C C P
C C P Alliance
#263 - 2015-10-10 09:46:26 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
I know I'm going to be that person, but is there any estimate on when an OS X version will be out?

/em puppy eyes

In the next two weeks, if all goes according to plan.

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Kachiko Sama
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#264 - 2015-10-10 10:30:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Kachiko Sama
Kachiko Sama wrote:
I've been using this for a couple of days without issue until downtime today. Now when I open the launcher i get a plain black box on my screen that is unresponsive to all input. I have to terminate it from the task manager.

The debug log in the folder (d:\evelauncher in my case) contains the following


[1008/182750:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(691)] Failed to load C:\Qt\5.5\msvc2013\qtwebengine_resources.pak
Some features may not be available.
[1008/182750:WARNING:resource_bundle.cc(304)] locale_file_path.empty()
[1008/182750:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(691)] Failed to load C:\Qt\5.5\msvc2013\qtwebengine_resources.pak
Some features may not be available.
[1008/182750:WARNING:resource_bundle.cc(304)] locale_file_path.empty()


The qtwebengine file above is in the same folder as the application itself, The regerenced c:\qt... folder does not exist, leading me to believe this is a config issue somwhere (possibly in the registry?)

The issue persists through uninstall and reinstall of the application. My old sisi and TQ launchers work fine (but are slower to load today than previous)

This is under windows 10


Deleting the registry key hkey_current_user/ccp/eveonline/launcherwindowgeometry fixed this for me, but i have to do it every time I use the launcher, but only if I drag the launcher from screen one to screen 2 before closing it.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#265 - 2015-10-10 13:56:44 UTC
CCP Snorlax wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
I know I'm going to be that person, but is there any estimate on when an OS X version will be out?

/em puppy eyes

In the next two weeks, if all goes according to plan.

Yay!

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GALACTIC SOUL
Mine-Refine-Industries
New Eden Trade and Industry Consortium
#266 - 2015-10-10 16:11:41 UTC
I really like the sound of the new launcher as loading up a few clients is Pain, this should help with that.

One thing I would like to see in the new launcher if not already included Is the ability to set unique graphic settings for characters.

For example I have 7 accounts but cannot run all with full graphics as my graphics card and PC spec is not up to it. But If maybe I could set 1 client as high graphics and 6 accounts with reduced settings to keep the fps up.

I have tried this before with my main on high and 6 miners on medium, but when I come to restarting the clients next time I play it defaults all clients to whatever the First client was using.


Hope that makes sense.

Keep up the good work CCP

Cheers
Jungle Wild
Northern Freight Unlimited
Young Miners Christian Association
#267 - 2015-10-10 16:31:59 UTC
Positive feedback. It seems to work great. I've copied the settings (I had two sets, one for each of the two monitors I'm using) manually, now I have 4 accounts configured, with 4 settings folders (one copied 3 times). Will test further but all fine so far.
Jaantrag
#268 - 2015-10-10 17:35:54 UTC
GALACTIC SOUL wrote:
I really like the sound of the new launcher as loading up a few clients is Pain, this should help with that.

One thing I would like to see in the new launcher if not already included Is the ability to set unique graphic settings for characters.

For example I have 7 accounts but cannot run all with full graphics as my graphics card and PC spec is not up to it. But If maybe I could set 1 client as high graphics and 6 accounts with reduced settings to keep the fps up.

I have tried this before with my main on high and 6 miners on medium, but when I come to restarting the clients next time I play it defaults all clients to whatever the First client was using.


Hope that makes sense.

Keep up the good work CCP

Cheers


use "setting 1" for your main and then use "settings 2" for the miners ..

when u feel like going solo go with settings 3 with high settings ..




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Mstk Miura
Perkone
Caldari State
#269 - 2015-10-10 17:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mstk Miura
I installed the launcher last night and i was able to launche game, today the launcher has been stuck for like 10+ min in "copying files" i had to reopen the launcher like 3 times to make it work.

I tried moving the cachefolder to my other disk, why is this **** so slow? there are like thousands of files, isnt more easy to me to copy and paste it?

I noticed that its moving every single files i have in the other disk to the new location, WTF?

Now im stuck with a bunch of files that i need to rename because they were moved and renamed to where the game is installed. 11/10 Programing skills there bro. I hope you guys are aware that you can **** up people pc for this.
Estevan Andrard
Doomheim
#270 - 2015-10-10 18:34:03 UTC
No matter how you change the settings of Shared Cache, the files are always stored in windows folder. That for me is a no-go at all. Hope it doesnt stay that way.

I am already fighting with the "TrustedInstaller" in windows, which is anything but a trusted installer, which installs things in your PC while you are unaware, and puts up some garbage around your pc while you are "away". I like to get control of my PC, and distribute the files as I please.

Plus, since I installed the beta, the overview of my UI got weird. Some itens in overview get greyed when I warp, but they dont vanish, sometimes lingering 2 or 3 jumps after I left the system. When I roll the list, it start to show ghost copies of itens. It all return to normal if I ctrl F9 twice. However, after a while, it starts all over again. In the PC I did not install de Beta Launcher, things still normal. Both pcs have the same setup, same settings.

If con is the opposite of pro, then is Congress the opposite of progress?
Soltys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#271 - 2015-10-10 19:41:20 UTC
Tried this lanucher today, IMHO it's genuine improvement over the old one. No issues observed so far. Good job !

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CowRocket Void
Of Tears and ISK
ISK.Net
#272 - 2015-10-10 23:02:47 UTC
Blue doesn't match my PC motif. A way to change its color would be nice Big smile

bleeding shadow darkness > did i just saw a red procurer? :P
Icarus Chelien
Obsidian Engineering
Dracarys.
#273 - 2015-10-11 00:15:09 UTC
I like the new launcher, but it seems that the settings aren't working properly. Everytime that you change the new settings "profile" it reverts back to default - meaning you have to go through the annoying process of resizing / repositioning windows, adding chat channels, turning off opportunities (no idea who uses this!), compacting member lists etc.

It is annoying enough having to set up all your windows once, never mind multiple times.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#274 - 2015-10-11 00:18:44 UTC
Mstk Miura wrote:
I installed the launcher last night and i was able to launche game, today the launcher has been stuck for like 10+ min in "copying files" i had to reopen the launcher like 3 times to make it work.

I tried moving the cachefolder to my other disk, why is this **** so slow? there are like thousands of files, isnt more easy to me to copy and paste it?

I noticed that its moving every single files i have in the other disk to the new location, WTF?

Now im stuck with a bunch of files that i need to rename because they were moved and renamed to where the game is installed. 11/10 Programing skills there bro. I hope you guys are aware that you can **** up people pc for this.



Did you put the shared cache at the very root of the drive? Because if you did, that was a bad idea. Uninstalling would delete everything.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#275 - 2015-10-11 00:22:55 UTC
Icarus Chelien wrote:
I like the new launcher, but it seems that the settings aren't working properly. Everytime that you change the new settings "profile" it reverts back to default - meaning you have to go through the annoying process of resizing / repositioning windows, adding chat channels, turning off opportunities (no idea who uses this!), compacting member lists etc.

It is annoying enough having to set up all your windows once, never mind multiple times.




That sounds like a bug. Because it maintains settings for me. So I'd submit a bug report if I were you.

(The settings aren't unique to each account. Shared between them)

Woo! CSM XI!

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Kal'Han
Kador Trade Company
#276 - 2015-10-11 02:38:25 UTC
Jaantrag wrote:
GALACTIC SOUL wrote:
I really like the sound of the new launcher as loading up a few clients is Pain, this should help with that.

One thing I would like to see in the new launcher if not already included Is the ability to set unique graphic settings for characters.

For example I have 7 accounts but cannot run all with full graphics as my graphics card and PC spec is not up to it. But If maybe I could set 1 client as high graphics and 6 accounts with reduced settings to keep the fps up.

I have tried this before with my main on high and 6 miners on medium, but when I come to restarting the clients next time I play it defaults all clients to whatever the First client was using.


Hope that makes sense.

Keep up the good work CCP

Cheers


use "setting 1" for your main and then use "settings 2" for the miners ..

when u feel like going solo go with settings 3 with high settings ..




That is a way to go, but a major PITA as settings are for the whole game, so chat, windows, overview, etcc need to be redone

my approach to this problem is minimizing non-displayed window : what kills a computer with slow perf and multiclient is the simple fact that each eve client is still rendering 3D in background
when all background client are minimized I hit the 200+ fps, when I have 3 client non minimized, I get less than 60 (vsync off)

I have made a small script that manage the minimizing automatically, works like a charm in windowed mode and fixed windows, dunno about full screen, here.

this would be amazing (for me at least) if this was native to the launcher, that's why I'm talking about it here, but I assure you the performance gain is drastic

I see some are asking for a minimize of the launcher when starting client, if this is not added to the laucher i'll add this in my script. The minimizing to tray should be tricky as it should be coded inside the launcher. so wait and see for this part.
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#277 - 2015-10-11 05:03:51 UTC
this is a bug in the normal launcher too, but i thought i'd throw it here hoping it might get some love with the new launcher... when starting eve with inactive client muting enabled, sound doesn't work until you alt-tab out and back into eve. since eve starts with focus, this doesn't really make much sense. thanks
SHiELD 01
Doomheim
#278 - 2015-10-11 08:28:09 UTC
play with 12 accounts.
with new launcher i can start to play with 2 click with all my acc.
want to see news inside launcher. (now i load default launcher for news)
want to see more beautiful background in launcher. (from last game version)
want little bit faster loading time for launcher.
DoToo Foo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#279 - 2015-10-11 12:51:45 UTC
As a minor inconvenience (glitch), swapping between tranquility, singularity and back to tranquility forgets my connections to tranquility.

When I launched the singularity settings I had an incompatible build.

Closing and restarting my launcher both recovered all my tranquility logged in connections and allowed me to download the required files and connect to singularity.

I was somewhat surprised that session remembered the connections upon restart as I had not checked 'remember password' when adding accounts.


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Arielle Silverwing
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#280 - 2015-10-11 15:36:47 UTC
I guess I'm going to go with the settings issue too when dealing with multiple client instances.
is there a way to copy the settings folder from my current installation over to somewhere in the new launcher so I don't have to reset every client and alt's screen position, chat windows, colors, ect ect.

Thanks
A.S.

PS. I'm liking it so far, I'm just a little lazy sometimes