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When should I start looking for a corp?
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Sere Bellum
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-10-10 06:14:23 UTC
So I just started today and the corp I was put into wasn't very talkative.

How strong do I need to be before I can apply to a corp that's more active than this one?
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-10-10 06:38:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Welcome to New Eden!

A good newbie friendly player corp can definitely help you with stuff and getting faster into the game. Others may give recommendations. But you should not rank yourself on some "usefulness scale" for others (now), it's your game, you need to find out what is fun for you and then find the corp / community that matches your playstyle and skillset, not the other way round.

EDIT:
I would recommend that you proceed with the career agents to get an idea what you can do in the game. This gives you ships, skillbooks and a training program for the various mechanics of the game.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-10-10 07:04:42 UTC
Welcome,

There's no time limit before you can be useful to a corp. People can be useful from day 1. It really comes down to what you want to do. Which will be hard knowing from day 1. As Tipa Riot suggested the career agents will expose you to a good variety of game facets.

From there you're on your own to decide which path you want to explore. Combat, Industry, Trade, etc. Hell Space trucking is a thing, here in EVE things don't move on their own. If you buy something, you have to go pick it up.

As for a corp to join, try to find one that align with your interest and have similar time zones. Be wary of corps that want to do it all, very few have the numbers to pull it off and even then rarely will have the resources to make it attractive.
Sere Bellum
Doomheim
#4 - 2015-10-10 07:08:17 UTC
I was just wondering because I got into the recruitment channel and people were identifying themselves by how many points they had, and when I would click on a corp they would have minimums.

I was just wondering how strong I needed to get before I'm generally worth picking up.
Amanda Chan
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-10-10 07:41:06 UTC
Most corps that have a SP minimum are low/null pvp focused corps. This number can vary wildly from 5 million SP on up.

The 3 largest newbie friendly organization that take in newbies that I can think of off the top of my head are EVE University, Pandemic Horde and Karmafleet.

My information on any of those 3 is spotty at best but what I do know is:

Eve University - Operates in High, Low and NPC Null sec. They run classes and I believe have "ranks" in the corp as you attend classes and become "certified". Recruitment thread found here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=403682

Pandemic Horde - Operations primarily in low/null. Associated with Pandemic Legion, which is a large nomadic mercenary group. Recruitment thread found here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5675950

Karmafleet operate mainly in Low and Null sec. Associated with Goonswarm/Imperium, a large sovereignty holding body. Being lazy I didn't find a quickly searched recruitment thread in the EVE corp/alliance recruitment forum. However, a quick Google search provided this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Karmafleet/comments/3k3mgt/everything_you_need_to_know_about_karmafleet_new/

Just so I didn't lose you at High, Low and Null sec.
High Sec - Is controlled by computer factions. It offers NPC "police" coming to your aid to punish those who break the law(them saving you is a byproduct. So don't expect total safety). So, if they're not shooting you for what you did, it's "legal". No comment if it's douchebaggery or not.

Low Sec - Is still controlled by computer factions but with much less security. Hence, Low Sec. Here the npcs offer protections by unmanned guns scattered around system gates and stations.

NPC Null Sec - Null sec that's "controlled" by the computer. By control, they own the stations and you pay them for the pleasure of using their services. Some will offer you missions for a reward. There's a little more interactions but for your purposes that's all you need to know.

Null Sec - Player owned space. Player enforced and protected. Most intrusions into their space is met with hostile gunfire.
Sere Bellum
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-10-10 07:44:18 UTC
Good information, I'll read through those and see what I can find out.

Thank you!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#7 - 2015-10-10 08:58:07 UTC
Hi there, once you feel oriented in the basic premise and principles of eve then you should go looking for. People to hang out with.


Couple of points to be aware of though,

1) eve is an open world PvP competitive sand box and as soon as you join a Corp, even in highsec, you can potentially be targeted and hunted by players like myself so when you're looking to find people check if they can defend you and/or facilitate you defending yourself.

2) there's plenty of crap corporations, just because they want you shouldn't mean you want them.

3)we are the content here and lots of us like to say hi by shooting you in the face, nothing personal, just weeding out the stupid and the weak willed , if someone asplodes you don't get wound up about it.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Thierry Orlenard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-10-10 12:35:51 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
I would recommend that you proceed with the career agents to get an idea what you can do in the game. This gives you ships, skillbooks and a training program for the various mechanics of the game.



Seconded. To do this, hit F12, then "Career Agents", then make your way to the system/station where they are located. Do them all if you can. You'll get a pile of ISK, free equipment and ships.


2) there's plenty of crap corporations, just because they want you shouldn't mean you want them.


Also this. Very much this. Be choosy, and also don't feel you have to stay in a corp once there if you're unhappy.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2015-10-10 13:54:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
I would say the right time to find a corp is when you know what you want to do. For some that may be day 1, for others it may take them a few months or even longer.

There are valid reasons not to join a player corp as well, the main reason might be that no one can war dec the NPC corps so that is something to consider as well.

EvE University is oft suggested, however they seem to draw a lot of war dec attention so look into and consider that aspect.

If you want PvP (shoot other players) game style then Brave Newbies and Red vs Blue are options not listed yet.

There are many excellent very small new player friendly corps around as well and many of them could be a decent first place to call home.

There are multiple in game chat channels dedicated to helping new players so those might be better options than your corp chat.

The Magic School Bus and the Angel Project are possible sources for information.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5309961
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/the-angel-project-turns-three/


Here are some other links that have information you may find useful.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Rookie_Help_Channel_FAQ
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331341&find=unread
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Pilot_101
Memphis Baas
#10 - 2015-10-10 21:03:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Memphis Baas
Ditto here; feel free to ask us questions, do the career agent missions and the Sisters of EVE epic arc, try some faction warfare or low sec PVP, take a ship into nullsec (somewhere like the Providence region where they don't shoot neutral visitors), and then look for a corp when you feel you have a grasp of the game basics and what you want to do.

There are no restrictions on class (tank, healer, DPS) or what you can train for, so a lot of corps recruit based on personality and attitude. Some do have minimum SP requirements, but it's not about the SP as much as which ships you've actually focused on (mining? industry? PvP? etc.), and even then they'll look at your personality, attitude, and how much they trust you more than at your skillpoints.

And, there are bad corps and good corps; you can look at how restrictive they are vs. what they offer and their general corporate atmosphere, to try to determine whether they suck.

EDIT: Note that you got put in a corp as soon as you created your character because the game database expects every character to be in a corp. If you're not in a player corp, you're placed in an NPC corp. Player corps have a player CEO and directors who organize events and provide help and training, NPC corps are just a chat channel that most of the time isn't even used.
Kavoro Pel
Yet To Be Named
Burn the Boats
#11 - 2015-10-10 23:28:27 UTC
I'd say start looking for a corp when you know what it is you want to do in EVE ,and when you're looking for spacefriends to do said activity with.

Much like real life tho; if it looks too good to be true, it probably is.
Sere Bellum
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-10-11 01:34:33 UTC
That's for all the help guys. It's going to take some time to go through all the info you guys provided.
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#13 - 2015-10-11 03:31:22 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
if when someone asplodes you don't get wound up about it.

ftfy.

you will get asploded. learn to enjoy it!

Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze

This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#14 - 2015-10-11 08:46:09 UTC
Mephiztopheleze wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
if when someone asplodes you don't get wound up about it.

ftfy.

you will get asploded. learn to enjoy it!

Good catch.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-10-11 12:18:46 UTC
immediately if not sooner.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2015-10-11 12:26:08 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Welcome to New Eden!

But you should not rank yourself on some "usefulness scale" for others (now), it's your game, you need to find out what is fun for you and then find the corp / community that matches your playstyle and skillset, not the other way round.

I usually say something similar to this but Tipa found a better way to say it.

I came to this game from another MMO where you had to be of "worth" to the guild meaning your character had to be something that they could use in some role and you had to have read enough websites that tell you exactly how to play your character and get within some small percentage of the potential max of that character on some kind of meter that felt it could measure your contribution and simplify it as a number like DPS or HPS or what ever.

Since eve has no structured anything or any type of gameplay that limits the number of players or player levels or whatever, you are useful from a character standpoint from day one.

So looking for a corp really comes down to do you have fun playing with these people and are they roughly interested in the same or similar things as you.

Keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with joining a new player friendly corp and then leaving it once you know better what you'd like to do. There are several corps in this game that mostly just train newbies and know that you will just pay it forward as you grow in the game.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-10-11 12:35:23 UTC
Sere Bellum wrote:
I was just wondering because I got into the recruitment channel and people were identifying themselves by how many points they had, and when I would click on a corp they would have minimums.

I was just wondering how strong I needed to get before I'm generally worth picking up.

In Eve spys are a thing. Skill Point minimums are there to make sure experienced players acting as new players can use a disposable alt to do corp infiltration. Typically that is the number of skill points that you could train in 2 or 3 months.

So the skill point minimums are not there for new players but to keep out skilled players acting as new players. If there was a way that they could tell you were not a spy they would, in most cases, be happy to have you in the corp with day one skill points.

The only exception that I can think of is that some corps don't want first month noobs. There are a lot of questions that you'll have in the first couple of weeks that can more easily be answered by doing carear agent missions or watching a few videos or reading up on Eve Uni wiki or something like that. So there are some corps that would rather answer more challenging questions than "how do move to another solar system" etc...

But again it has nothing to do with how much value you or your character bring to the corp. It's either about infiltration mitigation or just making sure that you are a good match for what they do.

An example is there are wormhole corps that are more than happy to teach you wormholes and take on new players and show them the ropes. However I'd like you to figure out the mechanical basicis like how to probe scan and use D scan and make safe spots etc... on your own and then come to them so that they can show you the finer more subtle points about being a good wormholer. Again this has nothing to do with if you are "good enough" for the corp and more to do with are you at a point where they can help you.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-10-11 12:46:52 UTC
Some of the bigger new player focused corps have been mentioned here. Those big corps do a great job for what they do and my hat goes off to them. However some players would be better of in a smaller corp where you are not just another number.

The problem is no one can tell you which corp that is you have to find it for yourself.

I'm not trying to talk you out of the new player friendly mega corps. They are great. I'm just saying that as you play make friends. Expand your contact list. Use the "notes" tab on the character info UI to keep notes like: "helped me finish a mission" or "EU TZ player" or "likes salsa and micro brew craft beers". Also join in game channels that seem interesting to you.

As you look at character's info UI you can also click on their corp's icon and go to their corp UI and then Alliance icon and get the Alliance info UI. In the description of many of those are in game channels. As well as some players just having social channels. These are just some tips no matter how you do it just make friends. As you grow in the game it will make finding a good home easier.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli