Warfare & Tactics

I think that those people aren't very good at maths.

When a militia reach an higher tier, the LP/ISK ratio falls down because while the demand for items from the LP store remains the same, there is obviously a greater supply.

Your suggestion will worsen the problem, because with these items "available only at a certain tier" we will face a scarcity issue when a militia falls under that "certain tier".

People that now save LPs at higher tiers to cash them at lower tiers will simply switch buying those items when available thanks to the tier, and will sell them at lower tiers.

Tier level is already managed by various groups of players to a degree. No need to give them more ways to gather profit from it.

Tier one doesnt ruin you. Higher 2 tiers do get a bit silly in comparison though.

I also doubt any farmer sits on piles of lp, more likely they just have mods sat in jita.

Cerain, arguing for a return to the time where FW was unarguably at its all time most broken state. Which is doubly bad since its in a pretty good spot atm.

I agree with Crosi about the current state of the FW mechanics. Seeing the way Null is suffering through changes atm makes me hesitate to ask for further iterations to payouts. The issue isn't not minding low tier, it's that farmers tend to hibernate or swing to allied factions whenever LP payouts are not favourable in comparison to their higher tier levels. Locking out certain items that are normally in high demand does nothing to curb the problem or recognize the root of the issue, which is not so much how MUCH lp players have stored, but HOW do people accumulate such massive reserves? Offensive plexes have been leveled out so that you can't game their passive counters with a fast frigate in a large complex. Missions, on the other hand, have not changed and they get worse (or further exploited) the higher the tier. This creates a snowball effect that it becomes incredibly easy to sustain high tiers with relatively little/reduced time investment. This momentum continues until those few that pump LP into hubs have gorged themselves to the point they are too tired to eat more and the farmers (who never donate or contribute anything) allow the tier to fall. It stays there until the market numbers are alluring enough for the fat bears to come out of hibernation to cash in. You do not see this too much in Gallente, as we have a broken NPC that jamms the **** out of you in anything but a sensor t3 or expensive (and very vulnerable) sentry boat. Therefore the majority of our farmers and pilots stick to plex warfare for LP, which is why we have a much more vibrant ecosystem for PVP in our warzone, and possibly why the Squids have a hell of a time failscading when they touch t4, and as many of their pilots turn to missioning, we never quit the plex war.



Datacores are unique enough to each faction that you will see wildly disparate price ranges when you look for those available only through DC agents and particular faction LP. Apart from ships, if it weren't for the ridiculous NPC tag requirements for some modules, you would see those more often too. Problem is some will continue to be rare because even Gallente missions are tailored to avoid the famous perma jam npc's; i used to do missions and had an overwhelming amount of Amarr NPC tags that I would just give to my RL friend in Minmatar.