Warfare & Tactics

To answer Desra's questions first :

These are the facts without any storytelling Desra:

When WBR started out in caldari militia, the caldari militia was broken and in shambles. Gallente Militia had a lot more manpower available at any and all given times, so it was completely understandable that we recruited like mad. A lot of people simply signed up because our fleets and fights were on average won a great many times more often than any fights where the fleets were led by other caldari corporations. This again is wholly unsurprising - if you have a certain measure of success, people will join you.

This led to WBR topping out at 186 pilots somewhere right when the main Gallente Militia corporation at the time, SOTF, left for 0.0 (R.A.G.E. alliance) to try something different. With that the main leader of the Gallente Militia and the main "heavy muscle" provider for them had left and taken about 120 pilots with them. The other EUTZ Gallente militia coporations could no longer muster the pilots to fight a corporation that had by itself 70-80 people online at primetime EU. We were then starved of fights and activity dropped right until the moment where SOTF, bored from 0.0, came back into FW.

We had stayed in touch with them over the duration of their hiatus because they are a bunch of nice blokes really (<3 Gall). When they then got back, we had a couple of OP's together in 0.0, enjoyed ourselves together, and decided to do the alliance thing.

Up until the moment where we were in the alliance together we consistently shot each other when we weren't in fleet for op's.
Superchair grossly misrepresents what happened in "fleets" because what he refers to is the times where we were in fleet together with SOTF, quite literally on the way to another destination, and then either gallente militia guys agressing WBR or caldari militia guys agressing SOTF and OFC we repped them since they were in a fleet with us. The pilots who did the agressing and were convo'ed and told to gtfo and didn't and subsequently died - well nobody's fault but their own.

When the alliance came to an end due to irreconcilable differences in play styles we were already in Kamela and simply decided to stay there. We then signed up for the amarr militia simply because the Amarr/Minmatar area was quite hot and is actually still quite decent providing activity for hungry pilots.

This should shed some light on the things you asked about Desra

No, a fight would be going for a good ten minutes before w-br "showed up" to rep SOTF. That's not a joint roam, just saying.

I'm one of many who share this perspective on what happened then. You can attempt to discredit it, by all means.

I gave an answer from the perspective of those still left in the caldari militia, if thats enough to warrant a wall of text from yourself, heres a doll you can show everyone on doll where I touched you.

@ superchair - your 100% wrong mate, the only time wbr repped us was when we were fleeted together - never on any occasion were reps from either side used to help the other unless we were in a fleet heading somewhere (which was normally away from black rise). Whenever we weren't fleeted we were 100 % shooty shooty each other.

FG's description is pretty much spot on tbh.

Also, don't turn a really good topic and write up into the usual ****** flame fests, not cool.

OMG MY BEAUTIFUL THREAD

Super Chair what are you doing?

There is a particular reason this thread only mentioned the positive aspects of that time period. Reason being it is meant to be an insperational story to those on the underdog's side like the currect state of the Caldari for example.

There is no shortage of bad blood and history within the Caldari Militia yet to shine the light on the positive and the good is what differentiates this thread from every other mudslinging FW thread. The message and insperation it tries to convey to the reader.

Why you want to come in here an start slinging mud in my thread is beyond me but if you are trying to re-establish yourself as a Caldari leader you truly are going on about it the wrong way.

Please there is no shortage of mud to be thrown around as is evidenced by every other FW thread in these forums.

If anything I ask all (for the sake of the message this thread tries to convey to the Caldari at this moment in time in particular) to keep this thread a positive one.

Also Hats Off to the Inter-Militia co-operation that made it happen. Qcats and Shadows of the Federation.

People complain about blue ops but there is a time and place for them. Like this occasion.

Bravo Good Job Guys o/

Keep in mind you have to be skeptical of anything that superchair states in regards to FW and Cal militia during that period. This is the same guy while in CAL militia would routinely give intel on militia fleets to the GALs because of his personal vendetta against one person in Militia. So, his perception of reality is flawed at best. I remember during that period some really good fleets with SOTF but when we were not fleeted, it was game on and we fought like beasts against each other. Anyway, the life of WB-R member is a very rewarding experience; never-ending fun.

To Stalking Mantis.
Great read. Someday, if not already, those who were involved will appreciate this and link back to your recap of the second third of the great war as a measure of pride.

To X Gallentius.
I never saw that recap of the first third of the war, but it was an excellent read. I had almost forgotten some of those old names. Thank you for the walk down memory lane.

To the next young pilot enlisted on either side.
Take notes, I look forward to reading your accounts of this next chapter. Hopefully they will smile on us once again.

For the State!

AX
"Death is the Road to Awe"