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Live on SiSi. RIP Hyperdunking. Bears win again. Pour one for Globbyy

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Anslo
Scope Works
#61 - 2015-10-08 21:29:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
this change is the gift that keeps on giving

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#62 - 2015-10-08 21:35:33 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
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CCP has the ability to change their decision on stuff. Especially on things that are a new and unintended consequences of other changes. While it isn't skirting the rules of concord it seems kinda close. It was within the letter of the law, but maybe not the spirit. I have trouble believing that people didn't think this would get patched out at some point.


And sometimes is needed.

AOE Cyno doomsdays... anybody?

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#63 - 2015-10-08 21:36:07 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Before your head explodes from trying to think, I'll give you a hint to the simplest solution, each account has three slots.


I understand that it is more work but if you are working in a system that see a lot of traffic, couldn't you just alternate which gate you gank on to never do it on one where concord is spawned? Moving your scout to the other side and all that is of course some more effort but still leaves your other character slots free for other stuff. Is there really a need to pull concord away if you just gank on another gate?
Paranoid Loyd
#64 - 2015-10-08 21:36:52 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
How can anyone NOT see hyperdunking as an exploit?


Because it is literally on the list of "NOT exploits."

That's how.

CCP has the ability to change their decision on stuff. Especially on things that are a new and unintended consequences of other changes. While it isn't skirting the rules of concord it seems kinda close. It was within the letter of the law, but maybe not the spirit. I have trouble believing that people didn't think this would get patched out at some point.

I don't disagree with you, however that list was literally posted yesterday. Regardless if you agree or disagree with the change, that was a dumb thing to do.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#65 - 2015-10-08 21:38:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:

CCP has the ability to change their decision on stuff.


Then why is that page still the same, listing it as not an exploit(posted freaking yesterday, of all things)? Why make a GD sticky saying "Hyperdunking is A-okay"?

It's not like it isn't obvious that they flip flopped for carebear tears, they've consistently done nothing but that for years. I'd just like to see them be honest for once and admit it, that's all.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Paranoid Loyd
#66 - 2015-10-08 21:44:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Before your head explodes from trying to think, I'll give you a hint to the simplest solution, each account has three slots.


I understand that it is more work but if you are working in a system that see a lot of traffic, couldn't you just alternate which gate you gank on to never do it on one where concord is spawned? Moving your scout to the other side and all that is of course some more effort but still leaves your other character slots free for other stuff. Is there really a need to pull concord away if you just gank on another gate?

The reason I do what I do is because other gankers don't clean up after themselves. Due to this, I already have an alt specifically for pulling. If I was the only one around it would not be an issue at all.

There is nothing stopping me from just undocking at the station to pull. (unless there is a Concord spawn there already) I am just a creature of habit and pulling them right by the gate every time guarantees I can keep my eye on their location as well as have an idea of how many spawns are around. Additionally if people get butthurt and start purposely pulling concord it is easier for me to manipulate things back the way I want them when they are done wasting their time.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

ThisandThat Whatever
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2015-10-08 21:50:26 UTC
K, so this might mean that goon Carebears will have a harder time maintaining the ore monopoly. Big deal.

Now, seriously, it might not be so bad as it looks like.

A new, exciting challenge draws ahead, inviting for more gank fun and can flips like never before. Think of gankers uniting even more for the common cause of cleaning up space from all that debris! Even more massive gank fleets, coordinated to perfection in a mission to blow up all those Carebears!
Mega Carebear fleets will suck highsec belts dry in seconds, Ores/minerals will be plentiful in high sec hubs, prices will go down, so will ship and mod prices; more, cheaper stuff to gank with!
Your plex will buy moar ships, so even if the prices drop, you still get a bang for the buck!
Seeing more Carebear highsec mining ops means more chances to gank!
New, exciting gank techniques will have to be developed to exploit blinks!
If Carebear jetcan miners blink, flip all the cans and have a hauler alt ready to scoop all the things!
Solo high sec Carebear miners will have to roam about some more looking for rocks to shoot, and systems that are usually empty might see some heads peeking in. Good for gankers that get sick of rounding the same 2-3 systems over and over, have some fresh air, look at planets with rings, visit some monuments, etc.
High sec Carebear retention will be somewhat higher, meaning more cans to flip; ships being cheaper and more players added, newbs will be more willing to be less risk averse and get their nubfit BC to get blapped when their cans get flipped, and since it wont hurt as much $$$ wise, they might even have some fun getting swatted and leave more cans out as bait!

All that stuff.

This is also nice for ya'll extreme pvpers that have a secret Carebear account in that Carebear mining corp. More opportunities while knowing all the other gankers, 100% safety.

So why all the qq? If you don't like the concept, stop being a Carebear ganker and move to Nullsec. Lots of room and good fights for you there, and plenty of space garbage for your Carebear alt to shoot mining lazors at..

Incoming!
Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
#68 - 2015-10-08 21:54:53 UTC
I expect a full effort lobbying blitz by gankers to get this plan reversed/not implemented. Interesting to see who "wins", as it may show their relative influence with CCP compared to others. There should also be one heck of an interesting Dev blog coming up.

.

To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.

...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.

Nighthawk The Assassin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#69 - 2015-10-08 21:56:29 UTC
omg the tears from griefers in this thread

is so

very

filling

yup

i cant eat

another drop

i am so full off the tears

HOW DARE CCP SUPPORT THE REAL PLAYER BASE!!!!!!

It's a company u jackass, a business, they don't care what u think

subs go down

they fix it

cry harder
Paranoid Loyd
#70 - 2015-10-08 22:05:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Aoife Fraoch wrote:
Hyper dunking couldn't have accounted for that large a percentage of ganks? I am probably a little more interested in what other unintended effects this leads to.

I used to be able to pull multiple spawns off a gate within the same criminal timer with some strategic bm placement or use of close by planets, belts and moons. (they don't ever move unless dispatched to another area) You won't be able to do this anymore, so if a gate is left dirty after a freighter gank, you won't be able to clear it without wasting multiple criminal timers.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#71 - 2015-10-08 22:07:31 UTC
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:
omg the tears from griefers in this thread

is so

very

filling

yup

i cant eat

another drop

i am so full off the tears

HOW DARE CCP SUPPORT THE REAL PLAYER BASE!!!!!!

It's a company u jackass, a business, they don't care what u think

subs go down

they fix it

cry harder

You forget the amount of the "real" eve player subscription cash CCP threw down the pan banking on life after their core business model Eve ergo dust and vampires.

CCP were looking after the real playerbase then just as they are now. Blink (no sarcasm)

Concord Approved Trader

Nighthawk The Assassin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#72 - 2015-10-08 22:08:56 UTC
lol u think they give a crap what half these threads say?

It's a business, they loose money, they fix the issue. High sec is a joke and null is crap

period
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#73 - 2015-10-08 22:15:12 UTC
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:
lol u think they give a crap what half these threads say?

It's a business, they loose money, they fix the issue. High sec is a joke and null is crap

period

You sound real smart, maybe CCP are hiring?

Concord Approved Trader

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#74 - 2015-10-08 22:15:12 UTC
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:
lol u think they give a crap what half these threads say?

It's a business, they loose money, they fix the issue. High sec is a joke and null is crap

period

It seams you are a bit too excited about this. May I ask if this is because of a recent antimatter incident? Maybe you should just calm down and purchase a mining permit.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#75 - 2015-10-08 22:16:55 UTC
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:

HOW DARE CCP SUPPORT THE REAL PLAYER BASE!!!!!!


You say that like you think you count as real players.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Nighthawk The Assassin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#76 - 2015-10-08 22:19:03 UTC
Love the insults

I don't undock, much to busy irl to play eve, i just train.

Loving the rage in this thread.

Funny tho cause u know what all of u will do about this?

Nothing, no quits, no unsubs, nothing

Just posturing and when CCP see no sub drop because of an anti PvP nerf.

MOAR COMING bro

hehe

power to the people!
Brian Harrelstein
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#77 - 2015-10-08 22:19:25 UTC
posting in both a "grr code" and a "code grr" thread... weeeee... Blink
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#78 - 2015-10-08 22:20:20 UTC
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:

I don't undock, much to busy irl to play eve, i just train.


I like how someone who admits that they don't even play the game thinks their opinion matters.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#79 - 2015-10-08 22:30:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:

I don't undock, much to busy irl to play eve, i just train.


I like how someone who admits that they don't even play the game thinks their opinion matters.

I concur. Next he'll claim he is a troll or something. Against forum rules ofc but with his bad grammer and new age emo reddit'esque behaviour the evidence is there for all to see.

Concord Approved Trader

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#80 - 2015-10-08 22:32:49 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nighthawk The Assassin wrote:

I don't undock, much to busy irl to play eve, i just train.


I like how someone who admits that they don't even play the game thinks their opinion matters.

I concur. Next he'll claim he is a troll or something. Against forum rules ofc but with his bad grammer and new age emo reddit'esque behaviour the evidence is there for all to see.


Notice the corp name. He's a Divine Entervention alt.

And yeah, the anti ganking channel actually put out the call a little while ago to go downvote any pro content posting on the reddit thread. Nevermind that it's against the reddit rules, of course. But then, anti ganking gets away with death threats and other violations of the EULA in EVE all the time, why should it be any different on reddit?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.