Out of Pod Experience

It's going to take a while to catch up with the depth that eve has if the full game is ever released and fully running. I'll probably sample it myself but being immortal with powers of a God when linked with my ship kinda spoiled me concerning manual flying.

EVE Online is relatively safe and good because it's already well established because it has grown and matured into what it is now full of opportunity and lore and history and adventures waiting to be had ... while Star Citizen - as far as I can tell - is a child of a game trying to be all that and more, without the experience of age and the discipline to develop in a calm and stable manner.


EVE will still be here for at least several years because:
- there are plenty of people who love grinding missions when they play and buffing up their workhorse
- there are plenty of people who love mining all day even if they're doing it in a semi-afk fashion
- there are plenty of people who love EVE's pewpew against each other, in lowsec and nullsec and wspace
- there are plenty of diehard profiteers and station traders who just love to swell their wallets with buying low and selling higher
- there are plenty of people who love building items from materials and thus supplying markets (hisec and otherwise) of real human demand for goods
- there are plenty of people who love the treasure-hunting of exploration, hacking, and archaeology



If I had a theory for the apparent relative decline of EVE, I'd believe it to be multiple factors:

Section A) Economies. I believe that part of what kept EVE going well despite global economic issues was the PLEX and the real dream that people could play a P2P game for free, and that's what happened. I'd guess that the supply of PLEX has lagged behind the demand, and as PLEX prices reach higher and higher then fewer people can afford to keep their account alive on PLEX using game activity to pay for it. All the while, the effects of weakened RL economy takes its toll and fewer people can afford to feed PLEX into the market.

Section B) Age & Time. In past years EVE was one of many good & interesting games to play but certainly it stood out for those who actually found it and tried it. It still can stand out, of course, but .... Many of us who play EVE now have been playing for years, and we looked to such games that we could enjoy by playing for several hours at a time. Many of us have grown more complex lives outside of EVE (sadly but truly) and can't give it the time it deserves. Instead of having 6-10 hours in a day to play, maybe only 1-3 hours are available in average days ... 1-3 hours in EVE sometimes feels like there's very little accomplishment or no guarantee of accomplishment, while 1-3 hours in something like WoW or LoL could be predictably satisfying, and for some people that's more worth their time.

Section C) Saturation. Our world now has soooo many media and entertainment options that are soooo accessible! The viral spread of smartphones, tablets, facebook, streaming video, lots of really good shows, free-to-play games, social media... EVE just has a lot more to compete with than it used to.



Despite all that, EVE hasn't died.
EVE: Forever

Wow. Something new? In my EVE? Not since Incarna. Not until the Hallelujah Plan is completed in 2016. And then, we'll see in what shape are EVE demographics.

On paper it sounds really exciting. The idea of flying with a group of friends/corp mates in the "Orion" mining ship, "Reclaimer" salvage ship, or "Retaliator" heavy bomber sounds really cool.

I'm just not feeling the same level of excitement or confidence from Chris Roberts, that someone like David Braben has with ED.

I have no opinion. My ex-ceo asked if I was going to play it, I told him I'd actually consider that if they ever release it.

there was a SC fan boy here a few months ago, but i have not seen him.

he used to post about how these ships are huge and how this feature or that would be amazing. and most of the time i was like 'um that sounds say more boring then what we have in eve..'

"but multi crew will be great! i cna board ships and this and that'

and i'd think 'but how long will it take you to find a worthy ship to attack, while you are twiddling your thumbs.. that sounds dull.'

'but the crew cna man mining lzaors!'

and i'd think 'but.. people in eve don;t even want to defend a mining fleet cause its boring.. you think the captain will be having fun waiting for other people to run around and check stations and adjust stuff as they mine/?!?.. yea i just don;t see that as being fun'

The head bob of the first person run animation makes me feel a bit nauseous, as does the first person view of getting into the pilot chair. The footage of walking around in a multicrew ship while it is being flown around, and you see stuff moving out the window, also makes me feel a little sick. It's weird, I've never felt nauseous from a game or video before. I haven't actually played what exists of the game at this point, so I dunno if it's just the videos or not.

Other than that, I think the game looks very generic. Visually. No interesting ships, characters, or environments. It is all impressively high-def with lots of moving parts and whatnot, but it's a very generic-scifi looking universe. But I guess that is kind of Chris Roberts' taste. And apparently the taste of the masses, $90mil for nothing but pictures of these boring ships.

I can talk trash all day long about EVE too, but at least the ships and stations and stuff inspire me.

^^ If true, it may be rather amusing to watch in a "told you so" kinda way.

Interesting. Let the centerfuge-like spin circus begin.

A CODE guy posts this:



5 minutes later!


Therefore ISD = CODE. It all makes sense now!!!!