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Who are the Good Guys in EVE?
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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2015-10-06 02:18:27 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Also, there's no time to check, or chat with the guy to figure out motives; by the time you chat he'll kill you, or escape. Your corp is green (in the overview), your allies are blue, and the enemy is red. You shoot at all the red, and you won't have time to check whether that's the veteran who really hates you and started the war, or some newbie they recruited who just happened to be in the wrong place. There's no time to check.

You shoot, hopefully you kill, and if it's the newbie then you just did him/her a favor by teaching some PVP tactics that they can try to figure out, emulate, or counter. Also, some adrenaline rush, maybe even some fun; maybe he had you pinned down with warp disruptors for a full minute before you managed to kill him and his team.


And even if you shoot a newbie and kill them - often they have fun.

I lost most of my first ten PVP encounters. Still much more fun than stomping through missions.

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-10-06 03:41:09 UTC
White Knighting never works in MMOs.

Basically the "White Knight' types have to log in 24/7 guarding something (belt, gate, whatever) whereas pirate types can log in an alt go kill some stuff logout again and go do something else. Hence the reason mining fleets and freighters never have 'guards" it is mind numbingly boring to play one.
Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-10-06 05:35:47 UTC
Destroying someone else's ship in a war or gank is really not that different from someone making profit on the market, everyone is out there to take something from someone else. In EVE no one is innocent.
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#24 - 2015-10-06 13:47:05 UTC
There are no "good guys" in terms of the definition you are using. "Good" is totally subjective relative to your point of view at a given point in time.

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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-10-06 13:56:15 UTC
A good thing is highly subjective - what would be good for a mass murderer and what would be good for ghandi?

There's a lot of morally grey out there too.

Sometimes honestly I wonder how things stumble on.
Malbona Pomon
Petulant Luddite GmbH
#26 - 2015-10-06 17:13:19 UTC
good. bad. who cares, I'm the gal with the catalyst.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-10-06 17:31:35 UTC
Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad?

The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good?

Big smile

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2015-10-06 17:37:48 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Am I good?

No. P

Grrr.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#29 - 2015-10-06 18:00:43 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad?

The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good?

Big smile

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Tiberius Heth
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-10-06 18:09:24 UTC
Don't you know that all PKers are sad little fckwits who play the game all wrong?*


*That's what people keep telling me.
Syeed Ameer Ali
Dirtbag Space Warriors Coming for yor Loots
#31 - 2015-10-06 18:20:13 UTC
Tiberius Heth wrote:
Don't you know that all PKers are sad little fckwits who play the game all wrong?*


*That's what people keep telling me.


What is a "PKer"? They sound awful.

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#32 - 2015-10-06 18:35:24 UTC
I am always right.

In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind.

Usually I can explain why too.
Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2015-10-07 14:45:47 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:
Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad?

The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good?

Big smile

I see what your saying. But, ya, you're bad Cara! Bad! If you were good, you would have helped that player kill the rat, let him have the loot, and explained to him how he could have handled it on his own or given tips for fit. No? Blink
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#34 - 2015-10-07 14:58:02 UTC
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Cara Forelli wrote:
Yesterday I found a newbro struggling to kill a mordu's frigate rat in a belt. I killed the newbro and took the loot from the rat. It turned out to be worth 100+ mil. Am I bad?

The newbro had such a good attitude about it that I gave him a quarter of the loot (more than 25x the cost of his ship!) and gave him some fitting tips. Am I good?

Big smile

I see what your saying. But, ya, you're bad Cara! Bad! If you were good, you would have helped that player kill the rat, let him have the loot, and explained to him how he could have handled it on his own or given tips for fit. No? Blink

Plot twist: It was a new player with an old character that had been unsubbed for a year. How was I to know he was new? Eve is a complicated place.

Besides, I'm a poor pirate. I need the loot. Big smile

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-10-07 18:37:02 UTC

A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there.

(*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.)

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Kitty Qiao
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2015-10-07 19:03:07 UTC
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there.

(*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.)

F


A friendly suggestion from a Harkonnen? Sounds like a trap!
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2015-10-07 19:44:31 UTC
Good guy reporting in.
Moon Moon Burdy
New Eden Tech Support
#38 - 2015-10-07 19:44:46 UTC
Kitty Qiao wrote:
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:

A possible place to start on your quest to identify good* people might be to hang out in the 'anti-ganking' chat channel. Rumor has it a lot of white knights hang out there.

(*Good in the sense of Lawful-Good alignment on the Gary Gygax AD&D scale of character morality, not in terms of actual capability or skill.)

F


A friendly suggestion from a Harkonnen? Sounds like a trap!


Feyd is a fountain of useful information and lulzy blogs. That said, if you see an obvious trap in Eve, sometimes the best thing to do is spring that trap and enjoy the ride. :)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#39 - 2015-10-07 20:29:58 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I am always right.

In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind.

Usually I can explain why too.
Confirming Vimsy is a perpetual warrior for justice.


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Niko Johnson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-10-07 21:08:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Niko Johnson
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
I am always right.

In any conflict I'm in I am the injured party and am fighting bravely against injustice of some kind.

Usually I can explain why too.


Your portrait reminds me of Idina Menzel, not too sure why though!

Also, I am always on the good side. But really, Memphis Baas said everything that has to be said about this discussion.