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So there is a lot of arguments for having missiles just be affected by tracking disruptors and not have their own module. I happen to agree with this. but I think the scripts that focus on missiles should still added for the weapon disruptors. Also like damps and jams before them the base module needs a small nerf and then the bonus buffed on the bonused hulls.


The reasons for this.

Ships that fit Weapon disruptors don't have very many mids, that in combination with scripts and the redundancy that is present in damps and ecm would be lost making fitting them a gamble at best.

The reason for the nerf is to make these ships both more necessary and powerful, because as of now weapon disruption is a joke on these hulls, not because of the bonuses, but because they have few mids and limited effect where the WDs can be spread throughout the fleet.

Mostly use it for the flexibility. A rig can increase application or range, but you can't change it on the fly (one reason I don't use turret rigs as much over tracking computers).

Also less drawback is helpful.

I second this motion!

It will be difficult to justify using the module unless you know specifically that the enemy fleet is mostly missile based. It would be far more elegant to wrap the missile disruptor into the current tracking disruptor.

....andddddd you are going to give traditional Caldari missile boats more speed to compensate .....righhhhhttt???!


Also - adding my +1s below.


1) + 1 to this being a script rolled into current tracking disruptors. Easy, less module give and take but still you need to be prepared. K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid. Just nerf disruptors a tad to compensate...especially the states you linked for the Missile disruptor module. I think that is O.P. Again, you will probably just say...keep it separate modules. And again, I will say ...KISS

2) So FOF missiles are finally going away then? Not that they actually contributed much to missile doctrine, but that should be compensated for in missile effectiveness. I am on the boat here overall with most posters....I feel like Missiles will be nerfed too hard with this script - potential module. It should still be a script too.

3) Defender missiles - remove - fine. But either fix them and make a dedicated missile wall ship that uses them (much like SmartBomb setups...or a module that does JUST defenders. If you can't fix them, fine. No love lost. No one really uses them...BUT, they could be cool.

4) Drone scripts...not in favor. Drones are fragile, you have a limited supply. They can be smartbombed, targeted, etc.

5) What chainsaw plankton said about missiles.

6) +1 to what the CSM rep Chance Ravinne and others said above too. My suspicions exactly post Aegis. Missiles just don't FEEL RIGHT. Those changes didn't seem to work well. I figure you guys at CCP have a game plan and that was PART of it. But overall, you do this missile disruption thing...and you better just REWORK MISSILE SYSTEMS/RIGS/MODULES/EWAR/BOATS from the ground up.

7) + 1 You need a new remote tracking enhancer module for missiles then too if you implement this. Let's be fair.

My two cents.

EDIT - Oh and Missile Battleships...oww.

I just don't use anything that isn't a frigate sized missile. the one place I've tried MGC/MGE is on a kite garmur for burner missions. which is something I probably won't be using often.

when using missiles I have to do math and stuff. I'm playing a video game, not worth it! guns I just minimize transversal and blap. with missiles I feel like I'd need to pay someone to fly a rapier around with me. I feel like there is just too much silliness going on in the missile damage formula. While I was digging through threads earlier someone said something about a dread being able to blap a pod, where a light missile gets a damage reduction. Light missiles may have been buffed since but I think the general point is there.

The big problem, missiles get too big of a buff and they are super duper good. Someone was saying that large missiles were destroying frigates with heated missile guidance computers when they first showed up on sisi.

my alt has perfect missile skills and I just can't stand using them. they were kinda cool as a newb, shooting glowing balls of death, plus everyone said to use them. but however many buff/nerf cycles later... nope! Although in pve you can get away with damage application rigs, painters, MGC and whatnot. A pvp ship fit like that is DoA.

speaking of that, can we get glowing balls of death back please! I don't even see missiles in flight anymore.

The point is balance.

You people are fools, you have no idea the armageddon this idea invites.

Thankfully, I have faith the devs aren't this stupid.

How would it not be balanced?

It is logical and more efficient to change existing weapon disrupters.

I kinda prefer missiles to remain 'different' to turrets - I'd prefer to see a proper 'CIWS' module for knocking down missiles, rather than a slightly different version of a tracking disruptor.

Question (from a 'fluff'/'Lore' whore POV): how does EWAR, that's basically a derivative of something that messes with turret targeting systems, make a missile travel more slowly?..... )

So for all the 'one wtfpwnsauce' mod proponents:

What's your counter when we land an Ishtar fleet on you with 2 of these on every boat?

I'll help: anything not a drone comp will die in a fire because I can stop all incoming damage dead.

Sounds like the only viable fleet damage will be drones after this. I think missiles are pretty good as they are, hitting smaller targets has a reduced damage anyway, and using speed will always reduce the damage anyway.

You can easily firewall a larger fleets missiles. Not sure this nerf is really what the game needs at the moment, sure I am biased as I use missiles myself, but they aren't the weaponsystem I'd nerf first.
This will just make the curse the instawin ship on the field, as missiles has prettymuch been thr best and only viable counter against them without bringing out anything much larger or shinier