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Gladrielle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-10-03 23:18:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Gladrielle
Hello,
I dont know much about t3 so if im totaly wrong, please dont be harsh with me Lol
OK, so i am actually living in nullsec and was thinking i'll put the t3 skills i have in use.
I would like to buy ONE tengu, ONE set of riggs and all the necessary sub-systems to use it in pvp and pve.
  • Could it be done, mostly for the t2 riggs? (they re not all that cheap and ill prefer to limit my investment in null to a low number of ships so i cant be bothered to move them all out in the worst case scenario Roll)
  • Could you suggest a fit for tengu angel pve and maybe a hamgu pvp fit that share the same set of riggs and still say efficient?
    • Id prefer to stay under 1 bill isk in total .
  • Just to clarify, i WONT be using one fit for both pvp and pve just the same riggs, ill be switching modules subsystems before each use.
    • Thank you all in advance, all your answers will be welcome
    help me eft warriors!!!!
    unidenify
    Deaf Armada
    #2 - 2015-10-04 05:55:19 UTC  |  Edited by: unidenify
    well, you will expect to pay least 500M min for ship itself. (hull plus 7 different subsystem, 2 for travel purpose, and 5 for pve)

    Then we need to know what skills you have since there are several viable fits for Tengu

    Heavy Tengu, HAM tengu, and Rail Tengu are 3 choice for PVE purpose.

    Not mention risk of ship loss that will cause you to lost random sub-system skill by level 1

    I current use HAM Tengu in null, and I find it quite good with only issue of range sometime.

    I believe that you can find answer through google by type Angel HAM Tengu and etc.


    however, is it possible for me to have same tengu to do PVE and PvP without change rigs. I would doubt it as what PVE need is different than what PVP need.
    Gladrielle
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #3 - 2015-10-04 09:35:38 UTC
    i was looking for a hma tengu cause its good for pve and pvp, i dont think any other weapons system will work?
    Garrett Osinov
    Doomheim
    #4 - 2015-10-04 09:54:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Garrett Osinov
    I was using this fit for Lvl 4 missions in 0.0 , heavy Tengu isn't an option, because of really low DPS.

    [Tengu, lvl4]

    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
    Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
    Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Range Script
    Cap Recharger II

    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

    For travel purposes (even next door system) I used mobile depot and this fit :

    [Tengu, lvl4]

    Warp Core Stabilizer II
    Warp Core Stabilizer II
    Warp Core Stabilizer II

    Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
    Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
    Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender

    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Scourge Rage Heavy Assault Missile
    Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

    Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Propulsion - Interdiction Nullifier
    Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration

    This fit saved me few times. Always fit interdiction nullifier and covops cloak.

    For PvP i never used Tengu because a) you loose skill points, if u get killed b) it is expensive c) in a small gang it is better to use Orthurus or Cerberus (cheaper)
    Lan Wang
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #5 - 2015-10-05 08:53:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
    hml tengu i find are better than ham's. ill post my fit when i get home tonight but it works great for lvl 4's, you also dont need a medium shield booster, small booster is perfect

    [Tengu, Gistum Grndr]
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
    Caldari Navy Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
    Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
    Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
    Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II

    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


    Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x3294

    Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

    Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
    Gladrielle
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #6 - 2015-10-11 13:56:58 UTC
    Lan Wang wrote:
    hml tengu i find are better than ham's. ill post my fit when i get home tonight but it works great for lvl 4's, you also dont need a medium shield booster, small booster is perfect

    [Tengu, Gistum Grndr]
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    10MN Afterburner II
    Gistii A-Type Small Shield Booster
    Caldari Navy Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
    Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
    Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
    Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II
    Heavy Missile Launcher II

    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
    Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II

    Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
    Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
    Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
    Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay
    Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst


    Scourge Fury Heavy Missile x3294

    will this work for ded complexes and at what lvl de deds?
    Lan Wang
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #7 - 2015-10-11 15:27:09 UTC
    Im not sure about ded's as tge last time i done them i was doing them in an ishtar, id think this should be able to cope with ded's up to 8/10 as my ishtar could

    Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

    Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
    Spruillo
    Lord Narg Corporation
    #8 - 2015-10-16 00:21:24 UTC
    Tengu pvp/pve translated roughly tengu pve while escaping pvp but I dont wanna fit 3 wcs's

    PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
    Spruillo
    Lord Narg Corporation
    #9 - 2015-10-16 00:22:17 UTC
    Spruillo wrote:
    Tengu pvp/pve translated roughly tengu pve while escaping pvp but I dont wanna fit 3 wcs's

    non-committal gets u dead in eve-online

    PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
    Spruillo
    Lord Narg Corporation
    #10 - 2015-10-16 00:24:27 UTC
    Spruillo wrote:
    Spruillo wrote:
    Tengu pvp/pve translated roughly tengu pve while escaping pvp but I dont wanna fit 3 wcs's

    non-committal gets u dead in eve-online


    why cant I just edit my first post

    PLAYIN SPACE TRUCKS VROOM VROOM
    Gladrielle
    University of Caille
    Gallente Federation
    #11 - 2015-10-16 22:58:09 UTC
    Spruillo wrote:
    Spruillo wrote:
    Tengu pvp/pve translated roughly tengu pve while escaping pvp but I dont wanna fit 3 wcs's

    non-committal gets u dead in eve-online

    its not about being non comittal, its about having enough isk to buy one tengu.... ill have a tengu pve fit and a tengu pvp fit, the two fits are separate
    the question was, what rigs could i fit in that benefits both pve and pvp. i dont want to destroy the riggs each time i want to switch activity.
    understand, its not about pvping in a pve ship or the opposite, its about having the same riggs for both pve and pvp and me asking the best fit to go with it