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EnacheV2
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-10-03 19:33:52 UTC
i come back after years and trying to join my country chat channel , and its gone

dear EVE devs, what the specific language channels did to you ? do you know those channels kept a community together and maybe your falling player numbers can be attributed , maybe a very small percentage but still a percentage, to you nuking a completely harmless social thing?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#2 - 2015-10-03 19:37:43 UTC
Most of the language channels have been replaced with ones run by players, there's a list of them here

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack
Marsha Mallow
#3 - 2015-10-03 19:39:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsha Mallow
See here. Players made replacement language specific channels. There was a protest when they were removed but as far as I know the player run channels are used.

Or, what Jonah said P

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
EnacheV2
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-10-03 19:41:12 UTC  |  Edited by: EnacheV2
thanks

i don't understand it though, why remove them?

who stays to detective the forum for this? new romanian players joining the game would easily find romanian channel, make some friends fast, get advice, etc , like i was back in 2007

if the guy who did this would work in my company i would have fired him next day.

P.S. if the devs would be smart they would put the channels back in and also make all new players automatically have them open together with local and corp channels.
Marsha Mallow
#5 - 2015-10-03 19:54:55 UTC
There was a longer discussion here where the change was discussed.

For what it's worth, I don't personally think CCP should have set up language channels in the first place. Most of the best community tools are developed by players. Try the new ones and if there's an issue make a feedback topic perhaps? You might find them an improvement in some ways because channel owners can create moderators and really look after the channel personally.

It'd be nice during the NPE if an option popped up asking the player their RL nationality, then 'would you like to join a player run language channel?' and give people the list. It's a bit tricky because these aren't run or moderated by CCP, but as long as that is made clear to people, there's no reason not to promote them and make them accessible. The ability to search for public chat channels ingame needs some work imo (like corp finder) <- I might list this in the little things thread actually, never thought of it before.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Arec Bardwin
#6 - 2015-10-03 20:00:21 UTC
Removing the official ingame language channels was a huge mistake, and I'm sure it made the new player experience worse for people with bad english skills. The new player made channels are not easily found ingame, you have to go to the forum thread to find them. Thus they are much harder to find than the old official channels, and less populated.

The reason CCP removed the official channels was a huge flame war in the russian/ukranian channels, and the CCP solution was to remove ALL the channels instead of muting the offending channels for a few months until things calmed down.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#7 - 2015-10-03 20:47:03 UTC
Official channels need to be policed and they can't be bothered, it's really that simple. Can't really blame them.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#8 - 2015-10-03 22:42:33 UTC
Arec Bardwin wrote:
Removing the official ingame language channels was a huge mistake, and I'm sure it made the new player experience worse for people with bad english skills. The new player made channels are not easily found ingame, you have to go to the forum thread to find them. Thus they are much harder to find than the old official channels, and less populated.

The reason CCP removed the official channels was a huge flame war in the russian/ukranian channels, and the CCP solution was to remove ALL the channels instead of muting the offending channels for a few months until things calmed down.


This. Spanish language channel population dwindled from 130 to 40, but oh, surely CCP doesn't needs any Spanish-speaking newbies. Otherwise, they would have been forced to show some galls and do something about the Russian trolls harrassing the Ukrainian channel.
EnacheV2
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-10-04 16:51:00 UTC
they have to police local channels for 5000+3000 systems , but they were bothered by 100 language ones? i'm sure the tools to police 5000+3000 local channels can be extended to another 100.

mind puzzling

out of curiosity, the lead executive when (channels removal) that happened is the same currently ?
lolcorpholder alt
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-10-04 19:59:18 UTC
Basically, Ukrainians and Russians took their little war to the in-game language channels which resulted in the removal of all language channels because of them being impossible to police according to CCP. CCP are STILL handling out warnings/bans because of stuff happening in the PLAYER language channels, so seems like they can police channels after all, even though the player language channels also have their own moderators. There were also attempts to contact some CCP dudes to get these PLAYER language channels in the in-game channels list in the languages section, but CCP started ignoring us couple months ago.