Ships & Modules

Had enough of Caldari after years of on and off play. I want to make the switch to something with guns, for both mission running and PvP - gang stuff, BC, BS size.Sniper or blaster boat, not fussed.

Sick of my own indecision and trying to do research. So, tell me, what race and what ships should I make the switch to?

Same toon - Flying a Drake at the moment, can get in a Raven but not fly it well. Can fly Gal BC's also but have none of the relevent skills for fittings. That can be ignored though. I'm happy to start from scratch to make the switch.

I know a lot about missiles, little about everything else. I've been leaning towards Gal or Amarr, but I hear great things about Mim all the time.

PvE Level 4s well first, PvP second - I can tackle while I wait

All right then - unless someone convinces me otherwise, Amarr it is. Thank you sir, skill training time.

well minnie should be right out as there savigaes and bloodthursty pirates( and FOTM/wuss ships)
gallente you have guns with and need drones to get the pir ship fun (and there pie ships are usfull but plain)
amarr will feel very new and fills holes in both your PvP and PvE ship line up
you can shoot me eve mails if you have any questions or need advise

Talk to me about Gallente in PvP, BCs and BSs. Snipe? Blaster? etc

I would role amarr, since they also got some missile based ships, it gives you the nightmare and lasers are pretty cool for both pve and pvp.



Not everybody uses guns in PVE because they got the job done slower than missiles.

I'm sure it gets boring to have a 'press f1 to win' ship doesn't it op. Go gallente, they're good at everything.

Gallente really shine in small gang PvP.

Battlecruisers: Brutix can be fit to do some nice DPS, and there are some effective Rail fits for the Brutix that can be a real surprise since the hybrid weapon update.
The Myrmidon is like a Swiss Army knife with the number of fits you can get to work depending on your needs, then again, all the drone boats are like this.
The Talos I don't have enough experience with to comment there.

Battleships: Dominix can be a truly terrifying ship with good drone skills, and switch roles on the fly depending on your drone loadout (ie. Sentry drones for sniping, Light drones for anti-frigate work, etc.), it's like a mini-carrier.
Megathron melts things it gets close to and can also be a respectable Rail platform. Rails are still less desirable for sniping in PvP but this has to do with the guns themselves, not the ship.
Hyperion is more guns for the party with a slightly better tank.

I will say Minmatar, not because they are more 'win' than Gallente or Amarr, but because you share most of the tanking skills already from being a Squid. You will have to train not only projectile turrets, but armour tanking, to make Minmatar work in all situations, but at least you can shield tank a lot of minmatar ships off the get-go whereas if you crosstrain to Amarr you will be confronted with weak armour tanks and weak gunnery and no way ut of that situation for a good two to six months.

Minmatar are also very versatile with fittings and you will learn a lot more about fiddling and EFTing stuff by being Minnie than you will be being Amarr.

You can of course just train gunnery for your Caldari boats. Whoever said Eagle was of course either joking or deranged, but you have good gunboats in the Harpy, Naga, Ferox to some degreenow the blasters do actual DPS, and the Rokh. You have to invest in the Rokh to make it a killdozer solo boat but it is also awesome as a neut/torp boat.

I would avoid Gallente if you want to train for turret weaponry. While they are the gankiest race, all the flash stuff is in Minnie or Amarr (Nightmare, Machariel, Dramiel, cynabal).

Not sure how you're bored with missiles and think guns will make it all better (Not saying that gunnery isn't a good skillset to have). Chances are you're just bored with whatever you do with those missiles. I can fly about any ship in the game, barring some caps, between my three current alts. None of them are fun or interesting running missions and incursions ad nauseum, but all of them are a blast when i'm roaming with mates or clearing the more deadly sleeper sites in our wh short-handed.

I was in a similar position once, many years ago, when I was new. Got tired of my first race, decided that the game would be awsome again if i cross trained. Turned out it just made me a mediocre pilot of both races and the new awsome ships I was flying became just as stale in a few weeks.

The moral of the story is pretty simple and it holds true now (crucible, imo, has done more for ship balance than any patch to date - not that there aren't still issues) more than ever: Learn to like the ships you can fly. Fully train to maximize their potential. Find activities that are fun and don't assume that doing the same thing in a diffirent ship is automatically going to make things better.

/sage advice