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Dual boxing logi?
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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#1 - 2015-09-28 21:59:05 UTC
So im mainly logi pilot, but im the only one in my corp... Thinking about opening an alt account train it to logi as well and dual box it... Wondering any of you guys do this at the moment? run 2 logi accounts at the same time?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-09-28 22:10:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
It's fairly difficult to do effectively, more so if you are the only two logi pilots, with some practice you can make it work. Two real pilots will always be better.

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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#3 - 2015-09-28 22:34:22 UTC
Super Miguel wrote:
So im mainly logi pilot, but im the only one in my corp... Thinking about opening an alt account train it to logi as well and dual box it... Wondering any of you guys do this at the moment? run 2 logi accounts at the same time?


I totally agree with Paranoid Loyd. It's difficult to do.

But the real question is: why 2 Logi pilots ?

Is it because you'e flying one of the cap unstable Logis (Guardian, Basilisk) ? Or is it because you want to have your Logi benefit from reps too ?

In both cases there are ways to make do with alternative solutions. Cap transfer and remote reps can be fitted to many other ships, though with sever range limitation compared to logi ships.

Best option IMO is a solo logi ship like the Scimitar. With it's low sig radius it can speed tank quite well in smaller engagements.

Dual box option is very viable if you don't expect much hectic during the fight, for example PvE situations or small fleet engagements. Just put each logi in the other's watchlist and make sure you set the secondary ship to orbit the first.

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#4 - 2015-09-28 22:44:46 UTC
Jill Xelitras wrote:


But the real question is: why 2 Logi pilots ?

this is why.

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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
#5 - 2015-09-28 23:14:07 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:


But the real question is: why 2 Logi pilots ?

this is why.


Oh, I see ...

Solo Guardian ? OP, no ... no,no,no !

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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#6 - 2015-09-28 23:28:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Super Miguel
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Jill Xelitras wrote:


But the real question is: why 2 Logi pilots ?

this is why.


nah this was last week, no longer running like this
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#7 - 2015-09-29 00:33:01 UTC
Dualboxing Logi is possible, but generally not recommended.

The 'safest' way I've heard is in Dominix fleets where you fly a Domi and a Logi. The Domi assigns drones to the FC, then the player can concentrate on the Logi side of things.

You seriously need to talk with your corp and either get someone else to train up for Logi, or get EVERYONE to fit self reps and start slying a DPS boat yourself. Lone logi tends to get wtfpwnt.

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Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-09-29 00:56:45 UTC
Super Miguel wrote:
So im mainly logi pilot, but im the only one in my corp... Thinking about opening an alt account train it to logi as well and dual box it... Wondering any of you guys do this at the moment? run 2 logi accounts at the same time?

I've run up to four logi at a time. In pvp that can be a bit too much even for experienced players. Two is the most I'll run in a frantic pvp environment. With two logis I can easily keep up with single logi players. Add in a third one and I start experiencing some delays in response as a result of moving the mouse cursor from window unto another.

In pvp you need a rock solid connection and preferably at least two physical machines or you're going to hurt the fleet by having excessively delayed responses. For PVE stuff tends to be a bit more forgiving but things can still get hectic. I was running 4 logi in my boxed fleet back when I was testing possible doctrines for drifter incursions. That was pretty silly hard.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#9 - 2015-09-29 01:12:15 UTC
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#10 - 2015-09-29 02:18:14 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Why stop at 2


why you haz both Medium and Small blasters on that ship?

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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
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#11 - 2015-09-29 02:28:14 UTC
Kinete Jenius wrote:
Super Miguel wrote:
So im mainly logi pilot, but im the only one in my corp... Thinking about opening an alt account train it to logi as well and dual box it... Wondering any of you guys do this at the moment? run 2 logi accounts at the same time?

I've run up to four logi at a time. In pvp that can be a bit too much even for experienced players. Two is the most I'll run in a frantic pvp environment. With two logis I can easily keep up with single logi players. Add in a third one and I start experiencing some delays in response as a result of moving the mouse cursor from window unto another.

In pvp you need a rock solid connection and preferably at least two physical machines or you're going to hurt the fleet by having excessively delayed responses. For PVE stuff tends to be a bit more forgiving but things can still get hectic. I was running 4 logi in my boxed fleet back when I was testing possible doctrines for drifter incursions. That was pretty silly hard.


4 dam i just want 2... i just think it would be cool :)
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-09-29 02:59:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kinete Jenius
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Why stop at 2

Holy spider tanking batman!!



Super Miguel wrote:
Kinete Jenius wrote:
Super Miguel wrote:
So im mainly logi pilot, but im the only one in my corp... Thinking about opening an alt account train it to logi as well and dual box it... Wondering any of you guys do this at the moment? run 2 logi accounts at the same time?

I've run up to four logi at a time. In pvp that can be a bit too much even for experienced players. Two is the most I'll run in a frantic pvp environment. With two logis I can easily keep up with single logi players. Add in a third one and I start experiencing some delays in response as a result of moving the mouse cursor from window unto another.

In pvp you need a rock solid connection and preferably at least two physical machines or you're going to hurt the fleet by having excessively delayed responses. For PVE stuff tends to be a bit more forgiving but things can still get hectic. I was running 4 logi in my boxed fleet back when I was testing possible doctrines for drifter incursions. That was pretty silly hard.


4 dam i just want 2... i just think it would be cool :)

Yeah it all started with "hey I'd like to have an alt to help this go faster".....

At this point all the basics are trained and all the gunnery maxed (sub capital but I do have a maxed t2 triage archon pilot and some dread pilots) so I'm just training characters into stuff that I might need some day.
DEM0N SEEKER
VTX1300
#13 - 2015-09-29 07:04:51 UTC
ban him
Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#14 - 2015-09-29 12:44:59 UTC
DEM0N SEEKER wrote:
ban him


?
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-09-29 12:50:08 UTC
think you just need to recruit a bit more and get a decent logi squad going, 3 seems to be minimum standard for most fleets

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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#16 - 2015-09-29 12:51:59 UTC
Nobody wants to run two logistics ships. It's too easy to get the two confused.

It's better to have two people run one logistics and one combat character each than for one player to run two combat characters and the other two logistics.

As a highsec PVPer I am obviously a subject matter expert.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-09-29 13:15:29 UTC
Dear OP,

Please tell your corp/alliance member they need to step it up, stop being "me me me em me me" type of people and only do what they absolutely like the most and train for logi so they can support their damn group and not rely on a single person. Doing all the logistic work for a group will only risk them being frustrated if for some reason you have to take a time off because it will mean their complete support wing is now gone and they can't do anything.

Instead of doing all the work yourself, make them help you.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-09-29 13:17:25 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Nobody wants to run two logistics ships. It's too easy to get the two confused.

It's better to have two people run one logistics and one combat character each than for one player to run two combat characters and the other two logistics.

As a highsec PVPer I am obviously a subject matter expert.


And 4 people running those 4 ships is again better since you reduce the risk of mismanagement to even lower chances. No "oops that F1 on the called target was a repper from logi account instead of weapon on dps account" type of BS at that point.
Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#19 - 2015-09-29 13:22:38 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Nobody wants to run two logistics ships. It's too easy to get the two confused.

It's better to have two people run one logistics and one combat character each than for one player to run two combat characters and the other two logistics.

As a highsec PVPer I am obviously a subject matter expert.


And 4 people running those 4 ships is again better since you reduce the risk of mismanagement to even lower chances. No "oops that F1 on the called target was a repper from logi account instead of weapon on dps account" type of BS at that point.


thats kinda why i think is better to run 2 of the same... didnt rooks and kings ran dual box logis all the time?
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-09-29 13:30:45 UTC
Super Miguel wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Nobody wants to run two logistics ships. It's too easy to get the two confused.

It's better to have two people run one logistics and one combat character each than for one player to run two combat characters and the other two logistics.

As a highsec PVPer I am obviously a subject matter expert.


And 4 people running those 4 ships is again better since you reduce the risk of mismanagement to even lower chances. No "oops that F1 on the called target was a repper from logi account instead of weapon on dps account" type of BS at that point.


thats kinda why i think is better to run 2 of the same... didnt rooks and kings ran dual box logis all the time?


Dual boxing logi in PvP as others have said is not easy to do, you can only pay attention to so much at a time so will struggle during hectic fights. A solo self-repping Onieros or Scimitar would be an option but still it won't be as good as two pilots flying two logistics ships.

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