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Is it safe to mine in missions?
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Gire Picaporte
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-12-30 07:39:11 UTC
Not that i do it, But some friend have been telling me they jet-can mine in Missions. Jet can mining is moronic due to the ease of getting your can flipped but they say it's safe since they do it in a mission with a gate and everything so no one can find them. Is this true?
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#2 - 2011-12-30 08:12:52 UTC
No, they are much safer but not foolproof. Missions are often visited by mission ninjas and they happen to be of a similar "player vs player interaction" mentality that can flippers have.

Also, level 3+ missions can have some NPCs that can kill mining ships, I have done one that spawned several battlecruisers.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#3 - 2011-12-30 16:39:36 UTC
Also make sure to check the mission reports on the mission you are mining. Some asteroids are rigged to cause damage to your ship if you mine.

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Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#4 - 2011-12-30 18:36:40 UTC
I agree with the previous two posters.
Read the mission reports to see if any delayed spawns occur for your chosen mission and if there are any other booby-traps that lurk.
And just as has been said, a Ninja may come in and flip your cans on you. The odds are higher in the more mission-friendly systems and almost non-existent in others. Suffice it to say that if you see Ninjas regularly salvaging your wrecks, they will also regularly flip your cans. Still, if your friend is the mining sort, losing the occasional site to Ninjas is probably worth the effort.
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#5 - 2011-12-31 03:47:11 UTC
It can be scanned down by combat probes. It's not likely, but sooner or later it will happen.

There are a few more likely problems with mining combat missions:

- Firstly not all missions spawn anything valuable.
- Sometimes the gates will not let a barge through.
- Often the asteroids are a long long way from the warp in point - jet can mining is the only way to be efficient.
- If you hand in the mission the roids will vanish.
- Some asteroids are booby trapped.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#6 - 2012-01-01 02:07:52 UTC
Don't use level 4 agents for mission mining, use a lower level agent, away from level 4 hubs.

If you see combat probes, leave your mission space so they can't get a fix on it.
Heun zero
MAYHEM BOYZ
#7 - 2012-01-01 05:01:53 UTC
Gire Picaporte wrote:
Not that i do it, But some friend have been telling me they jet-can mine in Missions. Jet can mining is moronic due to the ease of getting your can flipped but they say it's safe since they do it in a mission with a gate and everything so no one can find them. Is this true?


I've done plenty of jet can mining in regular belts. the chances of getting your can flipped was worth the extra gain I got from not having to return to the station every single time my cargobay was full. As said before in missions you're a bit safer but nothing is full proof as it should be in eve
Alyssa Yotosala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-01-02 02:07:34 UTC
Heun zero wrote:
Gire Picaporte wrote:
Not that i do it, But some friend have been telling me they jet-can mine in Missions. Jet can mining is moronic due to the ease of getting your can flipped but they say it's safe since they do it in a mission with a gate and everything so no one can find them. Is this true?


I've done plenty of jet can mining in regular belts. the chances of getting your can flipped was worth the extra gain I got from not having to return to the station every single time my cargobay was full. As said before in missions you're a bit safer but nothing is full proof as it should be in eve


This this and more this!!

I cannot more highly recommend the practice of jetcan mining in asteroid belts. As was said, it saves you lots of time by not warping, and has other benefits.

It is also an extremely good idea for you to label your cans with your name, and the time that the can was shat from your mining barge. This is an excellent way for you to show other miners how it should be done, and as an added benefit it also shows other noob miners how onto it you are by doing this excellent practice.

We need to see more miners jetcan mining. Dont bother with secure containers, you need to jetcan mine, mmkay?

To summarize, please please PLEASE jetcan mine! I cannot possibly say this enough.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-02 08:00:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Of course mining has such a horribly low profit margin you would be far better off running the mission itself. In the time it would take to strip the meager quantities of ore found in deadspace asteroids you could run three or four missions that will make you substantially more money. Not to mention Loyalty Points and standings if you care for that sort of thing.

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Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#10 - 2012-01-04 05:48:15 UTC
In nullsec, some of the higher complexes have significant stashes of high-end minerals (like, 100K Bistot). I would often fit my alt into a mining Ferox, fit a cloak, and suck away all day long, relaunching cans before they expire. BM the cans, leave the plex, wait 15, and warp back to the cans with an orca once the plex has despawned.

If anyone even bothers trying to find you with combat probes, you just motor away from your can, cloak and align for a celestial.

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Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-04 14:41:58 UTC
There ain't safe space in EVE. Anyplace in a ship hanging or moving, ur NEVER safe.
Billionaire Carebear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-04 21:43:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Billionaire Carebear
Well ... now that hulkisissydom is upon us, will Ninja Tactics be employed to catch Hulks on Missions? Honestly, if you are not in a mining barge then mission mining takes forever in a battleship.

EDIT:
That is strip miner cycle time verses regular miner cycle time.

EDIT:
I seriously expect for all mining mission locations to be invaded by fleets, and therefore highly dangerous during hulkisissydom.

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Spineker
#13 - 2012-01-04 23:14:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Spineker
They nerfed them all anyway not much need, or at least most of them were hit so hard with a nerf bat to make it useless. Didn't want mission runners to be happy you know?