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Make offgid booster ongrid.

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John Lawyer
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-09-26 13:57:27 UTC  |  Edited by: John Lawyer
Idea:
to make offgid booster ongrid.

Why?:
Speaking to FW low-secs, there is a very little chance for booster ship to be destroyed due to its high HPs and the possibility to dock to station or burn under the POS forcefield.
But the advantages it provides are very significiant (Orthrus with 65km point, for example).
Last months I became less addicted to fight the prominent 'links lovers' which means - less targets to engage - less ISKs to be spent (from my side and from side of people that thinks like me).
I believe, dragging boosters to battlefield will create more explosions and more fun, so everyone will benefit from it.

P.S.: also, the new niche may be created - booster hunting ops.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#2 - 2015-09-26 14:18:00 UTC
I agree, if you are affecting a fight then you should be in that fight and be at risk.

However I predict that there will be a fair number who will respond and say no to this because reasons, one of the most popular of which will be some variant of the claim that EvE is not fair and never should be, or the ever popular I have the right.
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#3 - 2015-09-26 14:26:24 UTC
This has been in the works for years. Legacy code prevents it, and they are having to develop a thing they call brain in a box to fix it.

I am unsure why they can't establish effects on a given grid rather than just the solar system level, but it's apparently hard to do.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#4 - 2015-09-27 15:56:45 UTC
Make searching mandatory before posting

The reason this is not in game had been explained

As to boosters not being at risk or in the fight just because they ate of grid this is not true they can be scanned
If you mean only things on grid should affect a fight them that is just a boring and narrow line of thinking
General Guardian
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-09-27 16:02:19 UTC
Your thread may get locked because this is a common suggestion in the forum.

I am also sure that a secondary problem besides coding is the fact that miners don't want to bring their rorqs to an asteroid belt.
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#6 - 2015-09-27 16:14:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
There have been a number of threads on this subject CCP has stated in the past that it is their aim to bring boosts on grid and that it is a legacy code issue that prevents it at present.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

The Ginger Sith
Attero Industries
#7 - 2015-09-27 16:41:26 UTC
cry more off grid boosters are the easiest thing to counter there are these things called combat scanner probes learn their use and find the off grid booster since if they dock/warp or burn into a POS shield they are then useless. instead of whining that things are not the way you want them to make it so you don't have to go learn a new skill go learn that new skill.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#8 - 2015-09-27 17:21:29 UTC
Oh look, this thread again. Roll

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Arla Sarain
#9 - 2015-09-27 19:27:56 UTC
The Ginger Sith wrote:
cry more off grid boosters are the easiest thing to counter there are these things called combat scanner probes learn their use and find the off grid booster since if they dock/warp or burn into a POS shield they are then useless. instead of whining that things are not the way you want them to make it so you don't have to go learn a new skill go learn that new skill.

Yes let's not actually engage in combat and instead play whack-a-mole with a blip on the F10 screen.

You'd think people would do this more often if it was actually productive? Cos it isn't and people don't do it often. Otherwise they wouldn't complain.

There are certain people who have enough alts to do almost everything in the game and they delegate one of them for being a mobile probe launcher.
But I bet my balls there are like 100 people in game that play dedicated combat probers, because it is just not an enjoyable experience. Consequently, good luck finding a puppy dog who will be glued to you and follow you around systems and drop probes whilst you actually get to do something.

Probes being a counter to OGB is just daft. Especially in lowsec where all the links sit on gates and stations.
The Ginger Sith
Attero Industries
#10 - 2015-09-27 19:32:10 UTC  |  Edited by: The Ginger Sith
Arla Sarain wrote:
The Ginger Sith wrote:
cry more off grid boosters are the easiest thing to counter there are these things called combat scanner probes learn their use and find the off grid booster since if they dock/warp or burn into a POS shield they are then useless. instead of whining that things are not the way you want them to make it so you don't have to go learn a new skill go learn that new skill.

Yes let's not actually engage in combat and instead play whack-a-mole with a blip on the F10 screen.

You'd think people would do this more often if it was actually productive? Cos it isn't and people don't do it often. Otherwise they wouldn't complain.

There are certain people who have enough alts to do almost everything in the game and they delegate one of them for being a mobile probe launcher.
But I bet my balls there are like 100 people in game that play dedicated combat probers, because it is just not an enjoyable experience. Consequently, good luck finding a puppy dog who will be glued to you and follow you around systems and drop probes whilst you actually get to do something.

Probes being a counter to OGB is just daft. Especially in lowsec where all the links sit on gates and stations.



you know so little u never have to leave the fight to make the OGB's warp cause they are so paranoid just seeing scan probes with in 1 au of their safe spot makes them gtfo i have done this from an on grid damnation or claymore in many engagements and yes every time my probes got close to a lock their OGB moved meaning while he warped around to create another safe and bounce to it and get out of warp no links are running. have seen others use this tactic as well tho most people have a simple mind and expect ccp to just make everything simple for them so they don't have to actually learn anything. and even with the advent of not being able to squad/wing or fleet warp to probe results u can book mark it and jet can the bm for your ceptors to go chase him if he does not warp off.
John Lawyer
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-09-27 19:33:20 UTC
Thanks for sharing your opinions, people.
Of course, there are some good ways to counter OGB - I just pointed on existing disbalance between risk of being destroyed and advantages.
I believe, more balanced means more interessing.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2015-09-28 04:18:08 UTC
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As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.


This issue pops up a lot and it is something CCP is aware of. As such, I'll be closing it as it's a topic that comes up a lot. Thanks.

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